The Great Depression No One Talks About

Just an anecdote: So it grinds my gears a bit when you talk about a "Great Depression" today. The social(ist) programs that were brought in to alleviate the Great Depression. Push for more socialism.

You don't seem to know what I think. Cuba is an example of a country that the US literally tried to overthrow because of an insane hatred for socialism. A more cooperative approach might well have resulted in a more benign version of socialism.And by the way, the Castro government was significantly better than the (literally) gangster-ridden dictatorship that it replaced.

First of all, the definition you're arguing with is not mine. My idea of socialism is, From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.YOUR needs - healthcare, etc. - would be met, at no direct expense to you. As I have told you before, I have NO surplus. That's more than my pensions. You're missing empathy. And you're sounding a bit racist (or is it white guys who are likely to take your job?)And you're supporting the fascist Republicans, which should be a clue.

It was American stupidity that hardened Castro's line and forced him into the Soviet camp. But of course you couldn't risk the possibility of actual socialism working on your doorstep. Sure, if you only listen to one side of the story, you're likely to get a one-sided story. I know people who fled from Chile after the Americans helped Pinochet overthrow Allende. I know people who fled El Salvador's American-backed death squads. Back to my original point, which you kinda sorta halfway agreed with, the merits of a system can not be judged by how hard somebody tried to destroy the system. I didn't say a word about Marxism - which supports the conclusion that you don't know what I think.

You might have given Castro the aid he needed to clean up the mess that Batista and your gangsters left instead of a knee-jerk over-reaction of blind hatred. Chile was not a war zone. In the Trump years we've had refugees crossing into Canada in the dead of winter, losing fingers and toes, to flee the US in search of a better life in Canada. See above. And we've had other waves of refugees from the US. Should be self-explanatory. Invest billions of dollars for decades to try to bring down the American economy and see what happens. Then claim it failed because it was unworkable from the start. For an unthinking right-wing fanatic, maybe not.I have mentioned before that Phat is more of a Marxist than I am. He's the one who talks about class struggle. I am no follower of Marx.

Billions of dollars were spent over seventy years to make it not work. I could prevent you from working with a ten-dollar crowbar to the kneecaps. I'm not talking about dreams. I'm talking about history. You're stuck between the right wing (Silly Party) and the extreme right wing (Very Silly Party). You need to get out of the nest.

Batista was out for himself and out for the American gangsters. Castro was out for the people. You're pretending that people only flee from socialism and I'm pointing out that you're factually wrong. No, like the refugees crossing into Canada in the dead of winter, losing fingers and toes, to flee the US in search of a better life in Canada. Thousands of them. Don't trivialize them. It shows that people flee FROM the US as well as to it. Everybody contributes.

Nonsense. The only "other" spirit here is your hateful spirit.(Trans Sexual paganism? What the hell is wrong with you?)

I had to look that one up. It's hard to keep up with the craziess lately.

He gave the people a universal healthcare system. Batista didn't. You can't draw a general conclusion from one specific case. Which is why I gave you other examples that show your conclusion is wrong. And people flee America to live in Canada. That tells me that YOU are the one who is desperately trying to avoid reality. Sure. Canada and Cuba have always been friendly. We have a pretty good healthcare system too. Canadian REFUGEES don't FLEE to America. If you can convince the United Empire Loyalists and the escaped slaves and the war resistors to come back to America, we'll take Seth Rogan.(And the majority of Canadians in the US will probably tell you they would rather live in Canada.)

*ahem* Slaves. *ahem* So you'd rather see poor people starving. Out Conservatives are more liberal than your Democrats. And you said yourself that our system is more efficient than yours.

Then you should be lobbying to have their wages raised. You Christians seem to be intent on making other people suffer. If that's the worst complaint you have about socialism, then you're completely out to lunch. Competition between gods has caused more suffering than almost anything else. Get rid of all of them and everybody will be better off. Remember when people thought separation of church and state was a good idea?

You fear socialism because you don't know the first damn thing about it.

You? The guy who comes up with the same empty assertions day after day. week after week, year after year? And what I have answered every time, Mr. Learns Quickly, is that if you lift up the poor, you won't be going down to meet them, they'll be coming up to meet you.

Money circulates. The more money the poor have, the more they spend, the more is collected in taxes, the more money the merchants have, the more they spend, the more is collected in taxes..... That's why I don't believe in taxing the rich. Once they have the money, it's too hard to get it back. We have to prevent them from getting rich. You're not arguing. You're asserting.But if the poor are making more money and paying more taxes, why would YOU be paying more taxes? Why wouldn't you be paying LESS taxes? What's so bad about that? You don't have a point.