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jar
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Message 4 of 138 (879940)
07-26-2020 9:26 AM


Fool!

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Message 6 of 138 (879943)
07-26-2020 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Phat
07-26-2020 9:53 AM


Re: Perhaps You Can Elaborate?
LOL
Stop believing in the idiots you follow.
It really is that simple.
No problem gets solved by using violent suppression. Even World War II was finally solved by negotiation and by addressing the needs of the people for food, clothing, shelter, dignity.
Adding more police will never address any of the causes for shoplifting.
Until we stop the really stupid Law & Order Crap all we will do is make life worse.
But then that seems to be what you want.

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jar
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Message 8 of 138 (879947)
07-26-2020 10:10 AM
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07-26-2020 10:05 AM


Re: Perhaps You Can Elaborate?
Phat writes:
I just want the flagrant anarchy to stop. Its spelled out quite plainly in the 10 commandments. Don't steal. And yet these social welfare misfits seem to think its their entitlement.
So it is once again only about how you feel!
Can you see a pattern?
Has your store requested the police to suppress the shoplifters?
And I notice that yet again when we get down to what is really bugging you it is NOT the Great Depression or National Debt but Phat's feelings of entitlement.

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jar
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Message 11 of 138 (879951)
07-26-2020 10:55 AM
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07-26-2020 10:13 AM


Re: Perhaps You Can Elaborate?
Phat writes:
im griping about their sense of entitlement not mine.
Correct; YOUR entitlement is jess fine.
Got it!

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jar
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Message 14 of 138 (879958)
07-26-2020 3:45 PM


And beware the conmen saving you money, for example by stopping the payroll tax.
Yup, today's paycheck may get a little bigger but Social Security, Unemployment and Medicare would disappear.
Taxes are not bad. In fact the places with a far higher quality of life than the US also have higher taxes.

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jar
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Message 16 of 138 (879960)
07-26-2020 4:28 PM


Above you said you would support more police and more suppression.
And that would require you to pay higher taxes.
But what would you get for those taxes?
Well more folk in prison which would require more taxes from you.
And other than that?

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jar
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Message 23 of 138 (881138)
08-18-2020 3:30 PM
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08-18-2020 3:16 PM


Re: Perhaps You Can Elaborate?
Hyroglyphx writes:
jar writes:
Adding more police will never address any of the causes for shoplifting.
That's right, cuz the root cause of shoplifting is shitty ethics... don't feed me some bullshit about "hunger" or "inequality." This is America. Nobody goes hungry. 1/3 of the entire population is on some form of government assistance. If you took a tally of all the things stolen, the majority would be cosmetics, video games, beer, etc not diapers and baby formula. I know, its so heart-warming to think shoplifters are doing it to survive, but they do it because they think they can get away with it and don't give a shit about other people. It opportunism, Jar. Or do you really think looters are out there stealing powdered milk for their children?
You are welcome to hold any opinion regardless of how utterly stupid and false it might be.
Hyroglyphx writes:
jar writes:
Until we stop the really stupid Law & Order Crap all we will do is make life worse.
Then if less is necessarily better then get rid of police altogether. Everything will just kind of fall in place. Just because CHOP/CHAZ immediately devolved into Mogadishu doesn't mean it would happen everywhere. Lets experiment and see which society flourishes and which society devolves into tribal warfare run by the single ethic of 'might = right.'
See above.
But getting rid of the Law & Order crap does not mean that police may not have some value. The Law & Order crap is truly stupid stuff like the war on drugs and militarization of police and failure to fund and address root causes and expecting police to function as social workers and forgetting that the police goal is actually to Serve & Protect.
But as I said, you are free to remain as willfully stupid as you wish.

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jar
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Message 29 of 138 (881152)
08-18-2020 4:50 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Hyroglyphx
08-18-2020 4:02 PM


Re: Perhaps You Can Elaborate?
Hyroglyphx writes:
What do you have against the guy?
It's because I actually think Phat has the potential to learn how to think critically.
Hyroglyphx writes:
The militarization was in wake of the LA bank robbery where two men were able to kill and critically injure hundreds of officers because they were out-gunned. The reality is that Bear Cats and M4's make sense for police officers to have. I think the whole 'militarization' is really overblown. Tanks? Landmines? Claymores? Bazookas? Okay, a bridge too far.
Nonsense. The LA Bank Robbery might be justification for have a hunting rifle in the trunk but that's far from what happened. The FBI shootout might also justify police having and wearing some body armor but that too is far from what happened.
The Militarization was simply another way to move money from Public Coffers into private pockets.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

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jar
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Message 49 of 138 (881447)
08-24-2020 11:34 AM
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08-24-2020 11:20 AM


Re: Perhaps You Can Elaborate?
But American do go to Cuba, despite the fact that the US is still stupidly trying to isolate Cuba, for medical care they could not get in the US until very recently and that the current fascist US government is trying to once again halt.

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jar
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Message 52 of 138 (881521)
08-25-2020 7:28 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by Phat
08-25-2020 6:04 AM


The Bill will get paid
Phat writes:
To jar: The Bill Will Get Paid under a democratic agenda. Do you really claim to be an Eisenhower Republican and not see the damage that will befall the middle class?
The bill will get paid under any Administration Phat. There is no way to avoid the bill; only a variety of ways to mitigate the pain that paying the bill will be. The biggest pain I see facing the middle class is the current fascist policies of the current Republican Party.
You truly have no idea of just how painful life will get for YOU if Trump is elected for a second term. You will kiss your union goodbye, kiss your employer healthcare, forget about Social Security, forget ANY job security, forget Medicare or Medicaid and be replaced in a heartbeat by a RFID based checkout counter. If Trump wins the election you will be unemployed by June of next year and in fact unemployable.
Edited by jar, : fix sub-title
Edited by jar, : that

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jar
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Message 56 of 138 (881574)
08-25-2020 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Phat
08-25-2020 3:16 PM


Re: The Bill will get paid
Phat writes:
Since you are in a prophetic mood, give me an idea of what life will be like under Biden/Harris and a country abandoning their Judeo Christian heritage. What happens when the rich start moving out of the cities and jet off to live elsewhere? What happens to Safeway when the economy tanks as the bill gets paid? How is my job any safer under Biden? The RFID chips will still come.
the RFID chips will come but under Biden Social Security might still be there as well as Medicare and maybe even Medicaid. There is even a possibility under Biden that the Union will be allowed to continue.
Under Trump there will be no unions, nor workers rights, not job safety requirements, only minimum wages, no unemployment, not environmental policies only rape and pillage of any resources and all going to the rich.

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jar
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Message 66 of 138 (881817)
08-31-2020 9:12 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Phat
08-31-2020 9:03 PM


Re: The Bill will get paid
Phat writes:
i fear socialism because few of them trust Jesus...trusting humanity inatead. i know that tangle would say its obviously the only objective solution but something in my intuition tells me not to trust it. pray for me to get true wisdom.
Pray for Social Security and Single Payer Socialized Medicine and support for Unions and a President who has not been a failure in business, entertainment, casinos, college, charity marriages and basic humanity. They will do far more for you than wisdom or Jesus.
Edited by jar, : that --------> for

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jar
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Message 86 of 138 (881921)
09-05-2020 10:00 AM
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09-05-2020 9:11 AM


Re: Two Good Apologists
Basics Phat, basics.
There is evidence that the Universe exists.
There is no evidence of any creator.

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Message 96 of 138 (882009)
09-08-2020 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Phat
09-08-2020 4:32 PM


Re: The Prodigal Son
Look at the part you underlined and really read what is written.
Nothing in what you underlined points to or indicates or suggests any change in the Prodigal Son but only a possible suggestion of some change in status.
Just as with the conversion of Saul; NOTHING in the story even hints at any change in the nature of the individual.

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jar
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Message 99 of 138 (882033)
09-09-2020 7:41 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by Phat
09-09-2020 5:22 AM


and again you show that you do create the god you worship.
Phat writes:
This Prodigal used up what his Dad gave him and then hired himself out and yet nobody gave him anything!!! That would drive me crazy! One of my problems is that I think I am owed something.
And so you create a god that considers YOU as special and gives to you. You want a god that is just like the father in the fable; one that accepts you back unconditionally. But you show that in life you don't behave like that father; you expect people to give up cursing and drinking and gambling and anything else YOU do not think appropriate.
Phat writes:
See here is where I note a change in the attitude of the Prodigal Son. Where before he demanded his share of what the Father has/had, now he is willing to work for his Father in exchange for being taken care of. You may still argue that only his status had changed and not his inner nature, but I would argue that desperate times call for desperate measures. Who else is going to take care of him? He obviously found out that he couldnt take care of himself!
Where is the change?
Did he not hire himself out before returning home?
When he returned home was he treated as one of this father's hired hands?
Might it be that what you want is not to be treated as one of god's hired hands but rather clothed in a fine robe and feed the fatted pig?

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