Miracle Of The Sun & Other Musings

Yeh, far better idea to stick with the sado-masachism. The bunch of paedophilic psychopaths that run the multi-billion dollar, global corporation haven't yet found that sinful.

Defrocked and adjudicated ? They (and the bastards who hid and protected them for decades) should be imprisoned.The axe I have to grind is you trying to attribute the moral high ground to a religion which for so long allowed children to be subjected to one of the most horrific crimes there exists, all to protect its reputation. Your church hid these crimes - your church protected these fuckers - your church cared more about their reputation than they cared about children getting raped by their priests. You have no - and I mean zero - moral high ground pal.

I see. Like I said, you love to denigrate Jesus and totally throw his teaching away. What you market is deplorable.

i wasn't claiming a moral high ground. but for you to gloss over the good that is done by the church because of the sex abuse scandal is not fair to roman catholicism. we are more than the bad apples.

you have no fruits. the uncharitable and inane way you carry discourse is evidence of this. you speak presumptuously about the God Man without understanding the faith. claptrap is a word i would use to describe your online presence here.

This is an old systemic disease in your church that has been festering for centuries so stop with the bad apples crap. The whole edifice is rot of morality, corruption of body and soul and evil disguised with a halo.In a just world your religion would be anathema to all mankind, forced to divest of all its properties and dissolved into oblivion.

this is demonstrably false. the pedophile priests make up a small minority of the clergy.

The organization that empowers them, protects them, aides and abets them, is not.

i am in agreement that the catholic church failed in this regard. this does not mean that the entire organization should be abolished. what about the laity and all of the faithful not involved?it should constitute and is to some extent a shakeup of leadership, not an abolition of the church.

Oh it does when the entire institution organised a global cover up of its offences and carries on doing it. Then pays its way out of the mess to the tune of 3bn and counting. You need to nail a statement on the door of the Vatican telling them to vacate the premises with 24 hours notice, sell the assets, give the proceeds to the poor, convict the corrupt arseholes that run the joint, give up the sado-masochism bullshit and follow Jesus's actual message.

Don't eliminate it. Tax it. I. e., eliminate its IRS 501(C)(3) status that makes donations to the church tax free. The RCC violates the rules for this status because they actively lobby both federal and state governments and even have large lobbying office in Washington. They also promote certain candidates and issues - 501(C)(3) charities are not allowed to try to influence elections. They should also not be exempt from property taxes. I would even go further and say the FDA should disallow them from promising immortal salvation in heaven (and damnation in hell), since that is obviously a significant health concern, unless they can prove efficacy to FDA standards.Yes, this applies to many other religions, but lets start with the biggest offender. And yes, I realize I'm wasting my time to even write this post.

I got dibs on the mitre.

As I pointed out to Phat the other day, it isn't what you give that counts; it's what you hold back. When the Catholic church sells what it has and gives to the poor like Jesus told the rich young ruler, when it gives its last two mites like the poor widow, THEN maybe it can lay claim to #1.

i'll take this bluster seriously when you sell all of your worldly possessions and live in a homeless camp

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The Nature of Wisdom
For in her there is a spirit that is intelligent, holy,
unique, manifold, subtle,
mobile, clear, unpolluted,
distinct, invulnerable, loving the good, keen,
irresistible, 23 beneficent, humane,
steadfast, sure, free from anxiety,
all-powerful, overseeing all,
and penetrating through all spirits
that are intelligent and pure and most subtle.
24 For wisdom is more mobile than any motion;
because of her pureness she pervades and penetrates all things.
25 For she is a breath of the power of God,
and a pure emanation of the glory of the Almighty;
therefore nothing defiled gains entrance into her.
26 For she is a reflection of eternal light,
a spotless mirror of the working of God,
and an image of his goodness.
27 Though she is but one, she can do all things,
and while remaining in herself, she renews all things;
in every generation she passes into holy souls
and makes them friends of God, and prophets;
28 for God loves nothing so much as the man who lives with wisdom.
29 For she is more beautiful than the sun,
and excels every constellation of the stars.
Compared with the light she is found to be superior,
30 for it is succeeded by the night,
but against wisdom evil does not prevail.

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mary pray for me. convert these sinners to your son and his holy church. ask your son to show me mercy for i am a lowly sinner.. humbly i ask you to stand as a rebuke against the aspersions cast about your Son's holy church, the Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church.