Miracle Of The Sun & Other Musings

I think we're seeing how creative religious institutions can get when there is a financial challenge to them. In the case of the RCC in the USA it's to the tune of at least $2bn so far.

A couple decades ago I served on our church's board as we were merging two congregations to form a new one with new by-laws, etc.Our minister strongly suggested that we include in the new by-laws a provision that excluded new members from voting in a congregational meeting; ie, only members who had been with the church for at least several months be allowed to vote. He described a scam in which, just before a congregational meeting, a church is suddenly flooded with a large number of new members who then vote to sell the church property to one particular buyer. Without by-laws to prevent that from happening, a church could not defend one of its most valuable assets.

That isn't "cursing", Pollyanna. That's frustration at the sheer stupidity of your position. And you confirm once again that you don't actually read what you respond to. So you won't do what Jesus told you to do until an unbeliever does it first? You need an unbeliever to be an example to you? If you had ever read the Bible, you would know that it was God who promised to take care of us, like He took care of the widow who fed Elijah. Yes. You're not questioning leftist politics. If you did ask some questions, you might learn something about it. But you don't believe the message. You deny and scoff at it all the time. We've been through that, Pal. YOU live what YOU believe and I'll live what I believe. Learn something about socialism. He sent him to Hell. jar reminded me that it was Peter who founded the Roman church. He did not deny that the members of the Roman church gave all they had or that Ananias and Sapphira were killed for holding back. That makes it worse for you. Peter Knew Jesus and he had the spirit - and the Roman church believed it was necessary to give everything.

our pope was a biologist by trade who believes in evolutionary theory.he affirms what we as catholics believe that we are created beings, intelligently designed.the devil may have convinced some of you that you are not created, but byproducts of a random combustion that makes a man walking on water and rising from the dead look commonplace.Blessed Michael, archangel,
defend us in the hour of conflict.
Be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil
(may God restrain him, we humbly pray):
and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host,
by the power of God thrust Satan down to hell
and with him those other wicked spirits
who wander through the world for the ruin of souls.
Amenhas lucifer lied to you so thoroughly, atheists, to convince your boy-like minds, that you were not created, but byproducts of mere chance? without identity, soulless, is there a fate worse than hell? --perhaps there is, as implicated in the doctrine of atheism.Edited by Christ crucified?, : No reason given.

Don't let go now there boy. You're almost there. Just get rid of your god and the satan that made him and you too can join the real world! In the reality of this universe your fate is to just cease to exist. No more you. Nothing. Just like there was before you. Nothing. No everlasting of eternal torture in some lake of fire. No wailing and gnashing of teeth. No unheard pleas for mercy and cries of anguish and pain for all time to come. Nothing ... for all time to come.Oblivion is not the happiest of prospects, not that we have any choice, but it sure beats the hell out of the crap your selling.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

hell is a better prospect than oblivion, at least you can know you exist.satan convinced you you don't exist

Uh, no, no it isn't.Your satan has convinced you you are afraid of your own god.Anythin' but hell, Masser. I obey, Massar. Please don't hurt me Masser.

what's that sound?that's the deafening sound of your non-existenceevcforum is a better god than your atheismat least you have a voice, a paltry one at best, though

Im going to send you a private message. Look for it in this forum.

rest assured life is good. really good. not sure i want to take it farther than that right now. flattered youre interested in the details of my personal life. charlie and i have been arguing about the perpetual virginity of mary to the point of exhaustion. hope that gives you an idea of where i'm at.i will say thisone is powerless aggainst the devil without the rosary. i make it a point to pray the sorrowful mysteries every day. i recently asked jesus to replace my guardian angel with st michael the archangel. i'm not sure the request was granted, but being that st michael destroys the devil at the end of time, i thought it a wise request.

Good grief!

One difference between you and I is that I have a definite need for a real relationship that transcends time and is essentially forever. Perhaps that need makes it easier for me to believe.

Sure, that's why gods are invented.But the reason you and others believe in a particular god is because you were born into a culture that had that god. That's all, just an accident of birth.I know that you think this god of yours talks to you but this same god says different things to the loonytunes Catholic. And of course different gods in different cultures say different things altogether. What do you think is going on here? Does every believer have their own god? If there's only one god why is he giving different and contradictory messages?

Christ is sending us a message. I love you. to this looney tunes catholic. to you the sophomoric atheist. to phat the evangelist.he's sending us a message I love you. I love you so much I died for you. I love you so much I found the one thing worth dying for and it was you. I love you so much I lowered myself to the level of a human, so I can feel as you feel. So when my friend Lazarus died I could feel the pain of his sisters. And I could weep.I love you with the purest of all possible loves agape love, and roman catholic and protestants can affirm and attest to this love.people with profound disabilities attest to the love of Christ.it's not that our god is sending us conflicting messages. His message is simple. I love you. Exclamation point. Exclamation point. I AM and I love you until my sacred heart gives out, until I say it's finished, until I give my mother to my beloved disciple, until I can no longer breathe the same air as you with the same lungs as you. I love you, and my Divine Son is the ultimate evidence that God loves.

Yeh, he loves us so much that he kills us, every one of us. He loves some people even more, those he tortures before he kills them with starvation, cancers and exotic diseases.And those that he doesn't love at all - because they were born in the wrong society or at the wrong time - he kills then condemns them to everlasting torture.Lovely guy your god. Just as well he's only a crazy masochist's fantasy.Are you going to explain to Phat why he's going to hell even though he thinks he's saved?