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Author Topic:   The Great Depression No One Talks About
ringo
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Message 79 of 138 (881910)
09-04-2020 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Phat
09-04-2020 12:07 PM


Re: The Bill will get paid
Phat writes:
....but im wary of a globalist agenda.
Everybody doing the right thing is not a "globalist agenda".
Phat writes:
i dont trust people who dont trust God.
But it's the ones who DO trust God - e.g. the televangelists and the apologists - who can't be trusted.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
Member (Idle past 412 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 81 of 138 (881912)
09-04-2020 12:59 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Phat
09-04-2020 12:46 PM


Re: Hummana Hummana Hummana..Who dooya Trust?
Phat writes:
... I am not inclined to mistrust Christian apologetics.
Then why are you afraid to discuss them?
Phat writes:
I am intuitive. Take conspiracy videos on YouTube. I reject 95% of them because they make extraordinary claims that are based on no testable foundation.
And yet most of what you post here is extraordinary claims that are based on no testable foundation.
Phat writes:
... I see no reason to question it more than I have.
That's your basic problem. You should never stop questioning.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 83 of 138 (881916)
09-04-2020 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Phat
09-04-2020 1:37 PM


Re: Hummana Hummana Hummana..Who dooya Trust?
Phat writes:
I doubt if anyone will find any dirt on them.
So bring their arguments here and discuss them in your own words.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 87 of 138 (881924)
09-05-2020 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by Phat
09-05-2020 9:11 AM


Re: Two Good Apologists
Phat writes:
Lennox provided rational responses to these basic claims.
Tell us what the responses are.
Phat writes:
I dont fully understand the argument....
Then you have no business proclaiming it rational.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Message 92 of 138 (881932)
09-05-2020 9:08 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Phat
09-05-2020 3:16 PM


Re: Two Good Apologists
Phat writes:
I have no written material from Vince Vitale, however, and thus can only share an audio podcast.
You could tell us in your own words, which is what you're supposed to do anyway.
Phat writes:
I like Vince because he is philosophical rather than a scriptural literalist, which wouldn't impress you anyway.
Just to remind you that I, for one, am ONLY interested in the Biblical arguments that apologists make. I have no use for philosophical mumbo-jumbo.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 94 of 138 (881999)
09-08-2020 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Phat
09-07-2020 3:01 PM


Re: Two Good Apologists
Phat writes:
And just to remind you that I consider Biblical arguments and philosophical arguments as the same thing.
Well, that's just stupid. You can't use philosophical arguments to out-flank the Bible.
I know you're afraid of both kinds of argument but you're not going to avoid them by moving the goalposts.
Genesis 3. Defend the apologists' lies.
The Prodigal Son. Defend your evil exclusivist theology.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 97 of 138 (882021)
09-08-2020 10:40 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Phat
09-08-2020 4:32 PM


Re: The Prodigal Son
Phat writes:
I know you will accuse me of not defending my argument in my own words, but I learn through studying the beliefs, words, and opinions of others.
You haven't learned anything until you can express it in your own words. That's why we have exams at the end of the school term instead of just giving you an A for reading the textbook.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
Member (Idle past 412 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 102 of 138 (882039)
09-09-2020 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Phat
09-09-2020 5:22 AM


Re: The Prodigal Son
Phat writes:
And ringo has the sheer audacity to tell me what I as a Christian need to do.
I'm telling you what JESUS told you to do. And there's no "audacity" involved. It's a direct quote. AND it isn't a one-off either. It's a theme repeated many times in the Bible.
It's about trusting God to take care of you.
Phat writes:
... not more than a handful of Christians have done so or are even capable of doing so.
The church at Rome did it. The woman with two mites did it. The disciples did it. In the Old Testament, the widow who fed Elijah did it. Today a lot of missionaries and clergymen do it.
Again, it's about trusting God to take care of you.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
Member (Idle past 412 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 114 of 138 (882058)
09-09-2020 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by Phat
09-09-2020 2:05 PM


Re: The Prodigal Son
Phat writes:
How is that taking care of me? How is being homeless taking care of me?
Everything isn't about taking care of you.
Phat writes:
You really do push this stuff to its theoretical limits....
I'm not pushing anything. It's what Jesus said.
And it isn't just theoretical: The church at Rome, Jesus Himself, His disciples, the woman with two mites, the widow who fed Elijah, missionaries, clergymen, ascetics from various religions....

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
Member (Idle past 412 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 115 of 138 (882059)
09-09-2020 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by Phat
09-09-2020 6:15 PM


Re: Giving It All Up. Put Your Money Where Your Faith Is.
Phat writes:
He doesn't expect us to piously imitate His poverty.
Clearly He does.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
Member (Idle past 412 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 123 of 138 (882089)
09-10-2020 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by Phat
09-10-2020 9:47 AM


Re: The Imperfect Storm that No One Talks About
Phat writes:
But if you have any comments on whether or not the world is heading into a bigger storm than we think we now have, comment here.
We have lots of problems coming up, climate change for example. The petty economic problems that you're worried about can be averted.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
Member (Idle past 412 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 137 of 138 (882120)
09-11-2020 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by Phat
09-11-2020 10:41 AM


Re: My God Supplies All My Needs Indirectly
Phat writes:
He did not directly condemn everyone else for giving less....
He killed Ananias and Sapphira for giving less.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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