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Author Topic:   Be It Stealth or Cyber: We Are In A War With China
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Message 2 of 54 (882157)
09-14-2020 9:40 AM
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09-14-2020 9:34 AM


The issue is that too many in the US are simply willfully stupid.

Thinking we are at war with China is particularly stupid!


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Message 7 of 54 (882162)
09-14-2020 10:24 AM
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09-14-2020 10:12 AM


And it is all TESTAMONY.

BUT there is also evidence; evidence that can be tested and verified.

The world is big. China has enough trouble ruling China.

China is as technology capable and advanced as the US and maybe even more so.

China's economy is second only to the US.

The US population is less that 25% of China's population.

The US has a really poor record when it comes to wars.

The real threat is that Trump envies Xi and wants to emulate Xi.

Let Trump continue and we won't have to have war with China, we will be far worse off than China.


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Message 8 of 54 (882163)
09-14-2020 10:26 AM
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09-14-2020 10:23 AM


Re: Is This An Either/Or Issue?
Phat writes:

Are you more favorably disposed towards Globalism or Nationalism?

LOL.

Think Phat, sheesh, think.

Stop listening to the idiots that keep giving you these binary choices.


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Message 11 of 54 (882166)
09-14-2020 10:38 AM
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09-14-2020 10:29 AM


Re: Threats To Our Way Of Life
There is still a very hi probability that Trump will get reelected or that if he loses he will redo the election of 1960.

AbE:

And you have never understood anything about money.

Edited by jar, : see AbE

Edited by jar, : no Q in AbE


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Message 13 of 54 (882168)
09-14-2020 10:52 AM
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09-14-2020 10:39 AM


Re: Here Is A Hypothetical Question
No, we have never discussed the idea of a Global Government.

And again, I have never seen any evidence that you know what a US style government might be.


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Message 18 of 54 (882190)
09-15-2020 7:35 AM
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09-15-2020 5:39 AM


Old News and learn the basics Phat
Building affordable homes for hundreds of millions of its citizens is evil?

Building roads and infrastructure all over the world where roads and infrastructure did not exist is evil?

Of course anyone here that has not been totally brain dead for the last few decades knows about Belt & Road. It's certainly been in the news fairly often for decades.

What will hurt US interests (not Western Interests) is the US spending money on it's military instead of foreign aid. When the US blockades and economically sanctions other nations while China offers them aid and support, which nation will they consider as a partner and which as a threat?

Faux News is poison.


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Message 28 of 54 (882215)
09-15-2020 1:40 PM
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Re: Old News and learn the basics Phat
Phat writes:

What their government soes not have, which Pressie likely doesnt care about, is religious freedom. They insist that the State should be given homage before any God.

That is simply not true Phat. Stop listening to all the lying Apologists and CCoI.


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Message 31 of 54 (882220)
09-15-2020 3:05 PM
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Re: Old News and learn the basics Phat
Phat writes:

The government controls the church. Considering that there are 1.3 billion Chinese and at best 200 million Christians, less than half who actually know God, the charge that China has no real religious freedom is successfully presented.

LOL

Again, you assert that there are any Christians that know God, yet no one has ever offered any evidence or even reasoned argument that that is fact.

Are there Christian or Jewish churches in China?

If there is even one such entity then religious freedom has been established.


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Message 34 of 54 (882226)
09-15-2020 4:52 PM
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09-15-2020 4:13 PM


Re: Old News and learn the basics Phat
Yes, as far a legality goes.

But changing people is even harder than changing governments.


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Message 39 of 54 (882232)
09-15-2020 6:39 PM
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09-15-2020 6:18 PM


Re: Old News and learn the basics Phat
AZPaul3 writes:

So, no. There is no freedom of religion in china regardless how many churches may exist. No, there is no racial equality in the USofA regardless of how many blacks we elect.

The issue in the US is that the people living in the US are intolerant. The laws are there. It is "us" not the "US" that are racial bigots. The laws (until Trump) were definitely created to move people towards racial equality but WE and American Citizens have decided to flaunt the laws and practice racial and sexual and demographic and economic inequality.

It's not the "US" it is the "us".

Until Trump we were making progress but TRUMPism is, I must admit, instilling legal governmental racial, sexual, demographic and economic inequality.


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Message 45 of 54 (884325)
02-11-2021 7:25 AM
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Re: Globalism: An Unrealistic Destiny.
The other option is to acknowledge that reality exists.

The idea of a war with China is simply stupidity writ large and as utterly stupid as the war on drugs.

Phat writes:

You think that God is nothing more than a character in a book and that humans are fully responsible for forging their destinies.

There you go lying yet again. Humans are responsible for their behavior, their actions but not totally responsible for their their destinies. Reality and other things will also influence their destiny.

And yet again, you lie about my position relative to GOD. My position is that every god or God that humans have ever described is solely the product of human imagination and it is a conclusion based on all the evidence INCLUDING the Bible.

Phat writes:

Well if its not a war against our way of life and ideals that we have fought for in many wars and for many years, what is it then? Are we simply supposed to be spineless wimps like Neville Chamberlain was with Germany and attempt to let the autocrats win?

As the very quote you included says "...only one side is competing."

Democracy needs to start competing.

China is winning by providing foreign aid, building infrastructure, creating jobs and industry, exporting health care all over the world. China now experiences more foreign investment, other nations coming to China to invest there than the rather than in the US.

The standard of living and quality of life for the average "middle class" Chinese citizen is rising faster than the US "Middle class" citizen.

China has followed Science rather than belief and prospered.

The US Christian Cult of ********* continues to place SOURCE over content, BELIEF over evidence and DESIRE above reality and is suffering.

The answer is simple Phat. Follow Evidence, Science & Reality and throw god & God away and we too will prosper.


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Message 48 of 54 (884371)
02-14-2021 6:54 AM
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Re: Globalism: An Unrealistic Destiny.
Phat writes:

How does one forge a consensus (bipartisan) that the leaders need to be accountable to?

The only way is by picking better politicians; by the voters being the leaders.

And that depends on first educating voters on how to think; but before that can happen the Christian Cult of ********* must be replaced by those who place CONTENT over source.


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02-14-2021 2:13 PM
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Re: Globalism: An Unrealistic Destiny.
You are of course free to wait fopr the god you created to do something but the rest of the world will simply go ahead and address their issues and needs and let the god you created handle yours.

Your welfare is NOT their problem.


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Message 54 of 54 (884415)
02-16-2021 4:39 PM
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Re: Globalism: An Unrealistic Destiny.
Phat writes:

If not, sho0w me why the GOD you believe in is so lovey dovey and rainbow centric.

You just keep making shit up and pretending it is something others have said or believed.

Your welfare is NOT the problem of either the rich or everyone else in the world who have been addressing paying their bill. Sorry Phat but that's reality and you will have to live with it regardless of whatever the god you create might claim.

Look at Texas today.

Texas has the power grid & infrastructure the Texas voters elected representatives created. It's a stand alone network not connected to the rest of the US power grid. Texas is sufferings now because of that.

Texas suffers every year from major flooding with tens of thousands of homes and cars and lives damaged because Texas voters elected representatives who refused to require building codes and standards and so allowed homes to be built in areas the get flooded every year or three.

Reality exists Phat and we get to pay the bill one way or another.

Those who find the least painful methods of paying their bills will suffer the least. It looks like a large significant portion the known as the Christian Cult of ********* US has chosen to take the path most painful.

Like Texas, they will get the results they chose.

Phat writes:

Absolute truth must take precedence over relativistic comparative religions.

But so far you never shown that you even have a clue how any truth, absolute or relative might be determined.


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