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dwise1
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Message 46 of 56 (882225)
09-15-2020 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by ringo
09-15-2020 12:55 PM


Re: wRe: Creation vs Evolution has been settled for over a century
That show is on RetroTV on Saturdays just before the original Dragnet (ie, from the early 50's -- I've also been catching the Dragnet radio show on Sirius XM where they keep referring to Joe Friday going to his mother's for dinner). Maybe I need to be watching The Beverly Hillbillies too.

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Message 47 of 56 (882256)
09-16-2020 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by youwerecreatedbyjc
09-15-2020 9:37 AM


Re: wRe: Creation vs Evolution has been settled for over a century
No.

That is a very silly thing to do, and it's very silly of you to suggest that any of it is true.


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Message 48 of 56 (882340)
09-18-2020 2:43 PM
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09-15-2020 9:37 AM


Will the true Creator please step forward.
youwerecreatedbyTh writes:

“when u get up in the mrning i want you to look in the mirror and say
Thor did not create me
Thor does not exist
that is the definition of mental illness
the creation telling his creator he is not there”

There, I fixed it for you. Your welcome.


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Message 49 of 56 (882345)
09-18-2020 3:51 PM
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09-18-2020 2:43 PM


Re: Will the true Creator please step forward.
The ongoing problem with this line of thinking is relativism regarding "gods". There is only One. You all cant understand how its not the same for everybody, but we do in fact have created "gods" in our minds. Some of us have found the right one...the only One. Of course we will never prove it to you skeptics. Perhaps you would do well to be on the lookout yourselves for evidence...dont challenge us to provide you with ours. (yes, it is subjective) If you are honest, you should realize that if One God exists and became human in order to relate to humans, you first have to even want to know this God. If you dont, God Himself cant/wont help you. Which for some of you is fine. Keep on keeping on, but some day you will remember your decisions.

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“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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Message 50 of 56 (882347)
09-18-2020 4:07 PM
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09-18-2020 3:51 PM


Re: Will the true Creator please step forward.
The ongoing problem with this line of thinking is relativism regarding "gods". There is only One.

No there isn't.


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Message 51 of 56 (882348)
09-18-2020 4:12 PM
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09-18-2020 3:51 PM


Re: Will the true Creator please step forward.
Phat writes:

… but some day you will remember your decisions.

And it always ends with this threat.

Get a life Phat, just get a bloody life; this is the only one you get, for god's sake get off your knees and do something useful with it.


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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 52 of 56 (882349)
09-18-2020 4:30 PM
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09-18-2020 3:51 PM


Re: Will the true Creator please step forward.
Phat, Phat, Phat!

Phat writes:

If you are honest, you should realize that if One God exists and became human in order to relate to humans, you first have to even want to know this God.

Phat, there have been a brazillion different Gods that became human not just in order to relate to humans but to have sex with humans and fight with humans and party with humans and sleep with humans and hunt with humans and ...

Phat, there is nothing unusual or unique about the stories told about Jesus.

Phat writes:

Perhaps you would do well to be on the lookout yourselves for evidence...dont challenge us to provide you with ours.

What makes you think that other's don't look for evidence and in fact millions find the same subjective stuff you've found but that show that Allah or Coyote or Ganesh or every other real true god ever discussed is the One True God.

You need to peovide either evidence or at least reasoned argument to support the god you created and market.


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Message 53 of 56 (882350)
09-18-2020 4:30 PM
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09-18-2020 3:51 PM


Re: Will the true Creator please step forward.
quote:
The ongoing problem with this line of thinking is relativism regarding "gods". There is only One. You all cant understand how its not the same for everybody, but we do in fact have created "gods" in our minds. Some of us have found the right one...the only One.

Plenty of people think that, and they disagree on which the “right one” is. Which should be a warning.

quote:
Of course we will never prove it to you skeptics.

Which is another warning sign. Certainly it is within a God’s power to provide objective evidence. People even claim that God has done it - but the evidence always turns out to be lacking - or worse.
(I’m thinking of Cedre’s fake prophet here).

quote:
If you are honest, you should realize that if One God exists and became human in order to relate to humans, you first have to even want to know this God.

If God wants to relate to us, and if God knows us, then surely he could at least manage to introduce himself. This is another big red flag. Why should I want to know somebody I have no knowledge of at all? Somebody who - as far as I can tell - doesn’t even exist. It’s never going to get past intellectual curiosity (at this stage - when I was young and believed it was different, but God never showed up even then).

quote:
If you dont, God Himself cant/wont help you.

Obviously this just means won’t. So much for God’s love.

quote:
Keep on keeping on, but some day you will remember your decisions.

There is no decision involved. I can’t decide to want something that I really don’t understand. And you giving a very negative view of God doesn’t help. Although I guess that may be because you don’t know God at all.


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AZPaul3
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Message 54 of 56 (882355)
09-18-2020 6:55 PM
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09-18-2020 4:30 PM


Re: Will the true Creator please step forward.
You need to provide either evidence or at least reasoned argument to support the god you created and market.

No, no, no, jar!

He needs to abandon the premise altogether.

Take up knitting. Chew gum. Something.

Anything but a god concept.


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I am antifa.

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Message 55 of 56 (882358)
09-18-2020 7:27 PM
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09-18-2020 6:55 PM


Re: Will the true Creator please step forward.
I don't see any issue that would require giving up a god concept. After all, like Phat, I believe that there is a GOD, the creator of all that is, seen and unseen.

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AZPaul3
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Message 56 of 56 (882361)
09-18-2020 9:42 PM
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09-18-2020 7:27 PM


Re: Will the true Creator please step forward.
I know.

Factio Republicana delenda est.
I am antifa.

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