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Tangle
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Message 272 of 327 (882322)
09-18-2020 2:57 AM
Reply to: Message 269 by Phat
09-18-2020 2:45 AM


Re: Code
Phat writes:
do atheists think that we are in essence our own creator? How else would a physicalist explain creativity and discovery?
Why are you asking another nutjob believer what an atheist thinks? Do you think that he has any chance knowing? Any at all?

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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 277 of 327 (882327)
09-18-2020 3:57 AM
Reply to: Message 273 by Trump won
09-18-2020 3:15 AM


Re: Code
what'sisname? writes:
as offensive as it sounds, i am of the opinion that atheism is a mental illness
There's nothing offensive about mental illness except why your loving god would inflict it on his creation. He loves us, my arse.
But of course, the madman always knows that he's right and the rest of the world is wrong; sadly, our institutions are full of them.
charlie shared a curious anecdote. according to his research into near death experiences, atheists in hell do not actually believe there is no god. they had consciously lied to themselves their entire lives on earth.
Congratulations, this is the most fanatically lunatic thing I've heard for ages.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 296 of 327 (882424)
09-23-2020 6:34 AM
Reply to: Message 295 by Phat
09-23-2020 2:57 AM


Re: How much of secular philosophy is objectively true?
That's not teaching, that's evangelising.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 304 of 327 (882453)
09-24-2020 3:00 AM
Reply to: Message 301 by Phat
09-23-2020 6:55 PM


Re: How much of secular philosophy is objectively true?
Phat writes:
My response is that what they teach only reinforces doubt.
What do 'they' teach? I've never seen or heard of anyone going into prisons - or anywhere else for that matter - teaching 'doubt'. What is this doubt and who are these teachers?
I market certainty in Jesus Christ.
They charge me with "making God up". I'm starting to think that it is useless to attempt to disprove this notion.
If you weren't making it up you'd be easily able to prove it wouldn't you?
I and 2 others heard voices from nowhere coming out in the air. We were in a controlled environment (my apartment). Again, you reject the beliefs because in your mind there is simply no way that they could happen.
You are incredibly bad at telling others what they think and believe. Surely you've picked up on that fact now? Every time you say something like that it's wrong and it's been pointed out to you many times by many people. This should tell you that you're misunderstanding people all the time. You're filtering and re-interpreting our answers to fit a model in your head. It's weird to watch.
There are many explanations for your 'voices'. The least likely being god talking to you. You dismiss out of hand the experience of others and you totally ignore the evidence that many millions of people hear 'god' telling them totally different things - even in the same religion. Nobody has ever heard Jesus talk to them that had not previously known about Jesus.
That single experience of yours prevents and pollutes all your other thought processes.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 310 of 327 (882460)
09-24-2020 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 305 by Phat
09-24-2020 9:11 AM


Re: How much of secular philosophy is objectively true?
Phat writes:
No. Thats not how it works.
That's exactly how it works. If you're sane.
Science Mike is *not* a Biblical Creationist from the CCoI. He has been through several stages in his life and is an inquisitive autodidact who is well respected in the community-at-large.
Ffs. MtW is just another self-taught Christian know-it-all/know-nothing with a mind corrupted by religiously motivated thinking. And he's got no respect in my community-at-large, whatever that is. By their fruits
Probably writing a book.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 312 of 327 (882463)
09-24-2020 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 311 by Phat
09-24-2020 10:10 AM


Re: How much of secular philosophy is objectively true?
Pfnrrr...

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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