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ringo
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Message 317 of 327 (882473)
09-24-2020 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 301 by Phat
09-23-2020 6:55 PM


Re: How much of secular philosophy is objectively true?
Phat writes:
I and 2 others heard voices from nowhere coming out in the air.
The more often you tell a story, the more it gets reinforced in your memory. I'm sure your story is clearer in your mind every day.
And so are the stories of the other two witnesses. But it's almost certain that their stories are different from yours. and the clearer your memory gets, the more it will diverge from the other witnesses' memories.
Phat writes:
We were in a controlled environment (my apartment).
That's not a controlled environment.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Message 318 of 327 (882474)
09-24-2020 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 314 by Phat
09-24-2020 10:46 AM


Re: How much of secular philosophy is objectively true?
Phat writes:
Of course to a relativist, if everyone has a"God"in their own head...we all are sinning against GOD.
Does that remind you of anything? have you heard the idea that "we all are sinning against GOD" anywhere else?
I have:
quote:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
So the "relativists" and the Bible agree.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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From: frozen wasteland
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Message 323 of 327 (882601)
09-30-2020 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 322 by Phat
09-30-2020 8:10 AM


Re: How much of secular philosophy is objectively true?
Phat writes:
Whats that you say? Evidence needs to be evident for eveerybody in the room?
Everybody in EVERY room.
Phat writes:
What is it that makes global consensus and agreement concerning evidence (on the topic of religion vs no religion and early understanding of god vs later understanding of evolved "reality" and these "Theological things?)
The "global consesnsus" is that there is no evidence of gods. You may think you have "evidence" for YOUR god but people who believe in different gods don't accept your "evidence", so it isn't evidence.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 327 of 327 (882614)
10-01-2020 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 324 by Phat
09-30-2020 8:44 PM


Re: How much of secular philosophy is objectively true?
Phat writes:
The global default "position" (if there even was such a thing) is not atheism.
Yes it is - and you know it. For you and anybody else, the default is no leprechauns without evidence of leprechauns, no bigfeet without evidence of bigfeet and no gods without evidence of gods.
Now, I personally think that bigfeet are quite possible and the only reason to think there are no bigfeet is that there is no solid evidence of bigfeet. Leprechauns are much less likely because of the magic angle and gods are even less likely than leprechauns because of the unfounded grandiose claims made about gods. YOUR god, in particular, is less likely than some other gods.
Phat writes:
Lets slay that demon once and for all time.
There you go again, making empty assertions. If you're going to "slay a demon" at least TRY to put up an argument.
Phat writes:
Many of you wish that were the case...
I don't. I'm perfectly willing to accept a god or gods if they existed.
Phat writes:
... but it is highly unlikely in our lifetimes.
It's a done deal to date - no leprechauns, no bigfeet, no gods. There is a possibility that evidence will be discovered in our lifetime or after we are gone but the probability seems very low.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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