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Minnemooseus
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Message 49 of 271 (879903)
07-24-2020 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Hyroglyphx
07-24-2020 1:12 PM


Re: The enemy of my enemy IS my friend?
Back about 4 years ago I made the mistake of referring to Hillary as "the lesser of two evils", to which Anglagard replied with the equally cliched "the lesser of two evils is still evil".
My instinct is that Biden is being underrated as a positive candidate, and certainly is amendable to influence by the more progressive Democrats.
My current perspective is that if the quality of candidates are rated on a (+)10 to (-)10 scale, we are being presented the options of the "0" (at worst) Joe Biden or the "-10" Donald Trump. You gotta go with the best you can get when you can't get "the best" that you want. So certainly, the enemy of my enemy is certainly my friend. Biden is a vastly less "enemy" than is Trump.
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Minnemooseus
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Message 245 of 271 (882496)
09-26-2020 3:31 AM
Reply to: Message 241 by Hyroglyphx
09-25-2020 10:54 PM


Re: Be honest
Nancy Pelosi has urged Biden not to debate Trump. She feigns as if its because he ought not dignify a debate with when in reality, c'mon cut the fucking shit already, its because she and everyone else knows that Trump would run circles around Biden and there's an excellent chance that Joe would forget where he was mid-sentence.
I've never felt the debates to be of any value is my deciding who to vote for. My impression is that they are a bunch of bullshit, especially if Trump is involved. And it is wise to not get involved in a bullshit debate when the Republican side seems to have a master of bullshitery.
Twice they shafted Bernie to place a status quo Democrat with major health problems. I still wouldn't have voted for Bernie, he's way too Socialist for me, but I do respect him and his sincerity. I have no respect for Biden, Trump or Clinton. None.
So I interpret this to come down to, you respect but wouldn't vote for Bernie against Trump, but you don't respect but will vote for Joe against Trump. Maybe the Democrats need someone who will get votes, even if not respected.
Hell, I think so little of Trump, that I wonder if I would prefer Dick Cheney (the guy who got us into 2 wars).
Moose
Part of my standard signature:
"Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable." - John Kenneth Galbraith
Vote "unpalatable".

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