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Author Topic:   Free will vs Omniscience
Sarah Bellum
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Message 1101 of 1444 (881077)
08-17-2020 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1100 by Stile
08-17-2020 1:27 PM


Re: Introducing An Old Argument Revisited
It's an interesting question of how the super-smart being somehow "relinquishes some smartness" in order to allow free will to happen.
Think of a young Clark Kent. How does he know (because he has x-ray vision) that things have "surfaces"?
Think of an "all-powerful" being. How does it understand a "day of rest" when for it there is no difference between strenuous work and no work at all?

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Message 1111 of 1444 (881096)
08-18-2020 9:22 AM
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08-17-2020 8:11 PM


Re: [qs]
Well, since I consider the concepts of comic book superheroes and religious deities to be equally improbable the questions are, shall we say, rhetorical.

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Message 1112 of 1444 (881097)
08-18-2020 9:26 AM
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08-18-2020 8:56 AM


Re: Introducing An Old Argument Revisited
If we define a unicorn in the usual way, four legs, tail, mane, horn, etc, you can think about it, know what it is, and decide whether there is such a thing.
But if you add another property, "existence", then things get more interesting. A unicorn is something that exists, has four legs, tail, mane, horn, etc. Does it exist? Yes, of course, by definition!

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Message 1359 of 1444 (882904)
10-24-2020 6:14 PM
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08-18-2020 11:36 AM


Re: [qs]
I did say the questions were rhetorical.

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Message 1360 of 1444 (882905)
10-24-2020 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1136 by Straggler
08-19-2020 6:13 PM


Re: Introducing An Old Argument Revisited
Libet's results only indicate that there is something in the human nervous system analogous to pipelining in computer design.

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Message 1361 of 1444 (882906)
10-24-2020 6:21 PM
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08-24-2020 5:59 PM


Re: Introducing An Old Argument Revisited
About the same as any other theology.

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Message 1363 of 1444 (882918)
10-25-2020 9:59 AM
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10-24-2020 7:17 PM


Re: Introducing An Old Argument Revisited
But we tend not to pay attention to that which wants to hide from us.

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Message 1406 of 1444 (886459)
05-20-2021 6:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1401 by jar
05-02-2021 10:47 AM


Re: gotta give up one or more attributes of God if you don't what an evil God
It all goes to show the scriptures weren't written by philosophers or logicians or scientists, they were written by people who just liked a good story.
“An artist is someone who can hold two opposing viewpoints and still remain fully functional.”

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