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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
I’m sure that the various rows over attempts to disqualify votes that should be accepted will overshadow any normal problems.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 618 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Perhaps. But the "normal problems" affect a much broader spectrum of ballots than the "rows". For example, in California there most likely won't be as much challenging (on either side) because California isn't likely to be a state in contention (or, if it is, it means the election is a landslide for Trump!). That still means thousands, even hundreds of thousands of ballots in California may be called into question by "normal problems" that will hit so much harder this year because of the early/mail balloting.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
That’s sort of inconsistent. If nobody is going to complain about the antics of the Republican Party in California because the result won’t be close, why would they complain about completely normal disqualifications? And there are serious issues in other states, too.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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why should we vote for a crooked old white male anti-busing ass-grabber named Joe just to toss out one named Donald? Anyone who cannot answer that question hasn't been paying attention for the last 4 years.Factio Republicana delenda est.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 618 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
I wasn't speaking to which things get more attention. Think of it as snow in winter. Some of it is natural, you can't "blame" anyone for it. Some of it is the result of snow-making, you can "blame" ski resorts for "cheating". But the amount of natural snow, even nowadays with global warming well on its way, far outweighs the "cheating". And so it is with ballots. That's not to say cheating might not swing a tight election, especially in some swing states, but there is bound to be lots of press about ballots disqualified for innocent reasons and, since the Democrat vote appears to be more heavily weighted to early/mail-in voting which has incurred more (innocent) problems even in less-stressful years, the stories will have a partisan result.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 618 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
If you read my post you'll see I was commenting on a possible reason for liberal apathy. I don't think it's likely that liberals (of whatever flavor) have been hiding under rocks (though maybe they've been fleeing to Canada?) for the last four years.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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Again, my point is that the open attempts to disqualify perfectly valid ballots - by being so egregious - will outweigh the natural disqualifications. As so far, they have.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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If you read my post you'll see I was commenting on a possible reason for liberal apathy. Doesn't matter. Anyone asking such a question is either blind or stupid if they can't see a major difference. Factio Republicana delenda est.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Or willfully amoral.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 618 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
The "natural" disqualifications are, by their very nature, not "egregious" (at least in the sense that there is nothing deliberate about such disqualification - clearly it isn't a good thing to have spoiled ballots for whatever reason). I was saying that the QUANTITY of disqualifications for reasons that are innocent will be far greater than the QUANTITY of disqualifications perpetrated by nefarious evildoers, simply because innocent mistakes are committed by some fraction of all voters everywhere.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 618 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
So . . . your comment was a non sequitur?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
No. It was a political opinion ... as was yours.
Factio Republicana delenda est.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 618 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
It could be both a political opinion and also a non-sequitur, of course.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
I suppose you could build an argument but in this case, no.
Factio Republicana delenda est.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
I don’t think you can argue quantity at this point, not when many egregious disqualifications are proposals or pending final court decisions at this point.
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