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Author Topic:   2020 Election early voting and eventually results
Sarah Bellum
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Message 61 of 200 (882980)
10-30-2020 10:09 AM
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10-29-2020 9:26 PM


So . . . more non sequiturs?

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 62 of 200 (882981)
10-30-2020 10:13 AM
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10-30-2020 1:22 AM


On the contrary, the number of disqualifications for honest mistakes will (most likely) far outweigh any alleged irregularities. Here's just one example from earlier this year:
California rejected 100,000 mail-in ballots because of mistakes | PBS NewsHour

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Message 63 of 200 (882983)
10-30-2020 10:28 AM
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10-30-2020 10:13 AM


I think that there will be far more than 100,000 ballots at stake. We don’t know how many will be invalidated yet. Maybe none. But with a partisan Supreme Court (and at least one Justice very much into invalidating ballots), we can’t say.

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AZPaul3
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Message 64 of 200 (882984)
10-30-2020 12:56 PM
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10-30-2020 10:09 AM


So . . . more non sequiturs?
If you're not paying attention to the discussion it might appear so, yes.

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 65 of 200 (882985)
10-30-2020 1:43 PM
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10-30-2020 12:56 PM


Um . . . have a nice day, m'kay?

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 66 of 200 (882986)
10-30-2020 1:45 PM
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10-30-2020 10:28 AM


Who knows what the future holds?
But it stands to reason that a great many more ballots will be invalidated because of errors by voters, simply because there is much more mail-in/early voting this year than in previous years.

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Message 67 of 200 (882987)
10-30-2020 1:58 PM
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10-30-2020 1:45 PM


There usually isn’t a campaign to invalidate ballots either.
The Republican Party has been about discouraging voting for some time, but they are getting more and more blatant in their opposition to democracy.

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Message 68 of 200 (882989)
10-30-2020 2:32 PM
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10-24-2020 4:51 PM


Re: Got Er Done
Perhaps. But we also know that Leftistt ideology and indoctrination of our core values as a nation through the likes of such evil people as Sol Alinsky and that Italian guy...forget his name..and that feminist Betty Friedan, who collectively warped an entire generation of students with their political hogwash. But lets address this stuff over in The Failure Of Progressivism
I did vote moderately. My sister and a few others convinced me to vote Biden, and I figured that if the Christian Prophets thought that Trump was a shoo-in, he would win anyway (or they would be exposed as False Prophets, as jar suggests) so let the games begin.
Personally I feel as if it will be a Biden Landslide, but I fear the godless leftists. Lets discuss it more in Hyros other topic.

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Message 69 of 200 (882991)
10-30-2020 2:53 PM
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10-30-2020 2:32 PM


Re: Got Er Done
You really are an idiot Phat.
Joe Biden is a Roman Catholic; hardly the godless such a Trump and the Christian Cult of Ignorance.
And what does the Bible say?
Did Jesus live in a socialist community where all funds were pooled into a common pot?
And did not Jesus even just take from those common funds to buy luxuries for himself?
And didn't he justify taking those funds by saying he wouldn't be with them long?
Phat, it's not the Left that is godless but the conservative evangelical Christian Fascist Right conmen.

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Message 70 of 200 (882992)
10-30-2020 2:58 PM
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10-30-2020 2:53 PM


Re: Got Er Done
Im not afraid of Joe Biden. I fear the women. VP and ACC. They will ruin our society if we let them.
Putting Jesus aside for the moment... I watched this documentary and find that I agree with much of what it says. We cannot simply adopt the wholw world and compromise our own cultural ideas.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.- Dr.John Lennox
The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.
- Criss Jami, Killosophy

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 71 of 200 (882993)
10-30-2020 3:07 PM
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10-30-2020 1:58 PM


There's been dubious dealings since the Republic was founded (and even before, just look at its ancestors in the Mother of Parliaments in Westminster). Stuffing ballots (or trashing opponents ballots) or "walking around money" is as American as Tammany Hall or JFK buying the West Virginia primary out from under LBJ.
The opinion polls give Mr. Biden a huge lead. Are you just setting yourself up so you can say you were cheated if the pollsters prove wrong like they did in 2016?

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Message 72 of 200 (882994)
10-30-2020 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Sarah Bellum
10-30-2020 3:07 PM


How often have partisan courts thrown out legitimate votes?
There’s already cause to think that some of the. Conservative Justices are planning to disqualify a large number of votes in Pennsylvania if it will help Trump.
quote:
Are you just setting yourself up so you can say you were cheated if the pollsters prove wrong like they did in 2016?
Hardly. The court decisions will not be secret.

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jar
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Message 73 of 200 (882995)
10-30-2020 3:34 PM
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10-30-2020 2:58 PM


Re: Got Er Done
Phat writes:
I fear the women. VP and ACC.
I think you mean AOC. Exactly what is it that you fear Phat? What culture is it that they will destroy? How could they destroy that culture?

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 74 of 200 (882997)
10-30-2020 3:35 PM
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10-30-2020 3:24 PM


Interesting!
Which courts? State? Federal? Supreme? Which judges or justices?
If they do so, would you support plans to pack the courts with people who are more pliable?

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Message 75 of 200 (882998)
10-30-2020 3:47 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Sarah Bellum
10-30-2020 3:35 PM


Probably it will go to the Supreme Court.
They’ve already said they will look at Pennsylvania if the late-arriving votes make a difference to the outcome.
They declined to hear the North Carolina case, although 3 Justices wanted to and wanted to disqualify ballots (Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch) - and Alito left open the possibility of reopening it after the election (and the whole thing looks very dodgy to me).
Then there’s Texas, but I don’t know how far that’s got.
Probably there will be more, especially if Biden wins. Not to mention the possibility of even worse shenanigans that will be clearly visible.

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