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Phat
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Message 8 of 200 (882901)
10-24-2020 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by AZPaul3
10-21-2020 8:56 PM


Got Er Done
Me too. One less chore left to do on Octobers list.

I threw away all campaign ads from both sides and just sat down and read the ballot, plus the explanatory blue book that came with it.

Its all up to the people now. And may the Christian prophets be wrong.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 12 of 200 (882913)
10-25-2020 2:37 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by jar
10-24-2020 3:07 PM


Kim Clement
Kim Clement, who barely lived to see Trumps first victory, prophesied that Trump would get two terms....years before Trump was even running for office.

I would argue that this man knew things that happened in the future after he said it.

And these dates are accurate. The tapes are not doctored.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 17 of 200 (882920)
10-25-2020 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by AZPaul3
10-25-2020 4:32 AM


Re: Kim Clement
You lie. You do not listen to live prophets. Tell me im wrong.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 18 of 200 (882921)
10-25-2020 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by jar
10-25-2020 7:10 AM


Re: Kim Clement
jar writes:

It's not the living and dead prophets that are the suckers and losers but rather those who believe such utter crap.

You are quite convinced that you have it all figured out. Might I say that your worst enemy is your pride.

All I can add is that IF the Christian Prophets are right, Trump will serve two terms.
Of course, there will be riots. People will be convinced that he cheated.

And Kamela Harris is every bit as wicked as Trump is. She is anti-god, a modern day manifestation of Jezebel, and the Democratic platform will ultimately send the United States into a globalist agenda....which seems good on the surface but will be disastrous for our collective future. Maybe I should rethink this whole thing, but I already sent in my vote. My family is all Democratic leaning, and I wanted to test the spirits anyway. If the Prophets are right, the Liberal agenda will prove to be the beginning of the end.

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 24 of 200 (882927)
10-25-2020 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Tangle
10-25-2020 12:34 PM


Globalism vs Nationalism
Oh America's fucked either way.

If the Republicans win, we can keep inflating the currency and pushing the bill on the rest of the world. If the Dems win, our system will collapse and the Americans themselves will suffer paying the bill. The people will then be lining up at the altar of the government bailing them out through a new cashless system. of some sort and we will lose much of our middle class wealth. The Dems want the people to need the government though. They have more control that way.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 29 of 200 (882934)
10-26-2020 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Tangle
10-25-2020 3:27 PM


Re: Globalism vs Nationalism
Tangle writes:

You're not fucked because of your politics, you're fucked because of your values.

I could say the same thing about extreme liberals. Look, I prayed this morning and can say with 100% certainty that God listened. I asked Him if the Christian "prophets" were right...and got no response saying that they were. As I confessed my human fallibilities and beliefs to Him, I could not discern any clear Word from Him on who would win the upcoming elections. So I will go out on a limb and make my own prediction. Note the date: 10/26/2020

Phats Predic tions:

Joe Biden will win in a virtual landslide. The "Christian" Prophets will be wrong...proving, as jar said, that they did not hear from the Lord.I'm not sure that I would classify Biblical Christianity as a "Satanic Cult", however.
For the record:
Nobody will pay reparations to any group of people. While I will admit that there has been White Privilege and an ongoing "good old boys network" within Western Power, this network is fragmenting and the Left agenda of equality and inclusion is coming to the forefront, largely because of the youth vote. Times they are a changin. There will be no mandatory reparations, however. Everyone starts over...nobody owes anybody anything. Whiners suck it up.

There are some serious problems with the brash LGBQT people who manifest almost as witches and demons, flaunting their sexuality as if it a God given right to do so. Which itself is a silly statement because much of the Left has a "god" of their own imagination....universal, all-inclusive, and accepting of everyones feelings--nevermind what that ancient book said nor of the true God, our Lord Jesus Christ.

Yes, Tangle, you think its all made-up, but I believe that you will get an opportunity to change your mind before you die, IF you have a mind that needs changing. Im not down to push Jesus onto you anymore than I will listen to the godless humanistic inclusiveness of the extreme Left. My God is Who He Is, and i am convinced that I am in communion with Him. Not TBN, not the Christian Prophets, and not much of organized religion. Perhaps, however, you can tell me where my values lack truth.

Oh, and one more prediction: The economy will implode, and the dollar will hyperinflate. A new global currency standard will be discussed, which the liberal agenda, being somewhat globalist, will accept. The middle class and small business owners will be furious, and the Christians will again gain power as the prophecies of the Last Days come to fruition. (The Democrates will of course get blamed for the collapse, though it wont be any one parties fault. It will simply be reality.)

Edited by Phat, : added words from on high (in my head)


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 30 of 200 (882935)
10-26-2020 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by AZPaul3
10-25-2020 8:00 PM


Re: Kim Clement
Pagan!

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 32 of 200 (882937)
10-26-2020 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by jar
10-26-2020 11:08 AM


Re: Globalism vs Nationalism
Its not the CCoI propoganda. Its mainstream.
Consider this article Are you going to flat out tell me that the conclusions are wrong?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 68 of 200 (882989)
10-30-2020 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by AZPaul3
10-24-2020 4:51 PM


Re: Got Er Done
Perhaps. But we also know that Leftistt ideology and indoctrination of our core values as a nation through the likes of such evil people as Sol Alinsky and that Italian guy...forget his name..and that feminist Betty Friedan, who collectively warped an entire generation of students with their political hogwash. But lets address this stuff over in The Failure Of Progressivism

I did vote moderately. My sister and a few others convinced me to vote Biden, and I figured that if the Christian Prophets thought that Trump was a shoo-in, he would win anyway (or they would be exposed as False Prophets, as jar suggests) so let the games begin.

Personally I feel as if it will be a Biden Landslide, but I fear the godless leftists. Lets discuss it more in Hyros other topic.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 70 of 200 (882992)
10-30-2020 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by jar
10-30-2020 2:53 PM


Re: Got Er Done
Im not afraid of Joe Biden. I fear the women. VP and ACC. They will ruin our society if we let them.

Putting Jesus aside for the moment... I watched this documentary and find that I agree with much of what it says. We cannot simply adopt the wholw world and compromise our own cultural ideas.

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 76 of 200 (882999)
10-30-2020 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by jar
10-30-2020 3:34 PM


Re: Got Er Done
Exactly what is it that you fear Phat?
In brief, overthrow of Western cultural identity.
What culture is it that they will destroy?
Our position...our way of life...our identity through the traditional lens of family, church, justice.
How could they destroy that culture?
By indoctrination. Granted, they may get students to think, which you champion, but all previous absolute assumptions are trashed and a new ideology is introduced. Perhaps I should ask who *We* is that fears this...and it is a bit simplistic to call the whole struggle as Globalism vs Nationalism, but just look at the refugees streaming into Europe.

Utopian Pacifism is happening...based on some of the ideas which even you have proposed...namely that there is no original sin and that humans are basically good. You also have encouraged your "students" to throw God away and to view God as simply a human construct. The whole of Western Culture was based on Christianity (largely) and the belief that God was absolute. In other words, I fear that one result will be a godless secular humanist post Christian culture...and I think that this is a huge mistake.

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 108 of 200 (883060)
11-03-2020 8:33 AM


Phats Election Day Prediction
I do not cl;aim to be a prophet of any sort, but simply use my common sense and the atmosphere of the people that I live in. Being a grocery clerk, I talk daily with a lot of people from a wide variety of backgrounds.

So here is my Election Day Prediction, at 630 am Denver Time.

President: Joe Biden will win by roughly the same margin that Trump defeated Hillary. He will dominate the popular vote yet will squeak through in the electoral college by a margin of roughly 40 votes.

The Democrats will now hold the House(by an even larger margin than before)
as wello as narrowly taking control of the Senate.

The Christian Prophets will be wrong because of

Ezekiel 13:17:NKJV writes:

“Likewise, son of man, set your face against the daughters of your people, who prophesy out of their own heart; prophesy against them,.


And:

Jeremiah 23:16 writes:

Thus says the LORD of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you. They make you worthless; They speak a vision of their own heart, Not from the mouth of the LORD.

.

I dont agree with jar in that they are satanic---but I do think that they simply told conservative Christians what they wanted to hear anyway. They sold out.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 115 of 200 (883068)
11-04-2020 5:29 AM
Reply to: Message 111 by Tangle
11-03-2020 12:41 PM


ITS ALL OVER...in another Month
OK, so I voted for Biden in order to appease my family. I really never liked the idea of Kampala Harris, whom I regarded as Hillary 2.0. She represented that hippie idealism and humanist bliss--, Green New Deal at any cost, love the sins and the sinners, and Satan? Does Not Exist! Mentality of the far left. Logically, I believed what the media told me.

When I saw how close the race actually was, I realized that the Christian Prophets were right all along.

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 120 of 200 (883073)
11-04-2020 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Tangle
11-04-2020 5:59 AM


Re: ITS ALL OVER...in another Month
Do I really need to point out that you're just deciding what to believe minute by minute?
Not at all. I have always believed in God and the wayu I called it originally, the prophets appeared to be wrong. According to the media, Biden and the Democrats were predicted to decisively win this thing. And it didn't happen. Trump is positioned now in that he actually might win, which will set off the largest round of protests in History...you all will claim he cheated. In my belief, it ios the liberal side that is more evil than the conservative side...though evil and rebellion exists within all humans.

And that the prophets, in your view, can be right whatever happens?
If Biden actually emerges as the winner in a week or a month, I will handily admit that the prophets were wrong. Reality is what it is.

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Phat
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Message 124 of 200 (883077)
11-04-2020 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by Tangle
11-04-2020 12:56 PM


Re: ITS ALL OVER...in another Month
Do you really, honestly think that Jesus would vote republican. Honestly?
No. Jesus would be pro family and family values. He would likely not be for reparations and likely would be a nationalist more than a globalist...since He was a nationalist in regards to Israel.

Not sure quite where He would fall politically. He would likely correct everybody.

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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