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Message 616 of 623 (880701)
08-09-2020 3:56 PM
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08-09-2020 3:36 PM


Re: Metric System in the Kitchen
Not that many years ago, at least in Arkansas, you could be arrested for possession of a kitchen scale that gave weights in grams. Drug paraphernalia, dontcha know. Somebody could weigh some reefer on it!!!

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Message 617 of 623 (880704)
08-09-2020 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 614 by NosyNed
08-09-2020 8:45 AM


Re: An Old Canuck's View
For old guys like my friends (I will not say "and me") the conversion for speeds is mostly complete. That's because speedometers and speed signs converted totally. It's not exactly complete for us (actually for anyone) since the fools to our south are unable to handle the change so acceleration times in car mags and such are in seconds to 60 mph (with an admixture of seconds to 62 mph).

The handy part of that conversion is that many cars have both scales on their speedometers; my Honda Accord in the USA does. Though from what I remember on Continental Europe is that they only had kph and I recall that when I asked about this here a year or two ago it turned out that British cars will have both scales. Don't know how it is in Canada but I would assume dual scale.

Doing renovations back in the 80's I got slightly messed up by the conversion. Out 2x4's (and others) went metric in those dimensions. But they are cut extremely close to the metric size for 2 and 4 inches (which, of course they are not, more like 1.5 x 3.5 dry). But they are not exactly so when in the middle of a reno you mix old and new they don't line up precisely. That problem went away quickly enough.

From a Canadian video on the matter, he said that construction sizes (eg, plumbing) are in inches. But even without going metric, that problem with 2×4's already existed in the USA in the 60's. The actual dimensions had been reduced to 1-7/16 × 3-1/2, while the original 2×4's in an old house's walls actually measured as 2×4. When we closed off a doorway in one remodel, we had to rip half-inch thick furring to build the wall out.

Temperature was converted in the 70's and I'd say everyone is on Celsius for that. At this point I find F temperatures difficult even though I grew up with them. I know immediately how warn or cool or hot or col C is but have to make a rough conversion of a F temp to get a feel for it. That is other than around 100 F. That one I just know is hot.

That was my first concentrated research into devising an easy conversion method. My friend and I were going to Europe for her first time and she was worried about knowing the temperature, so I worked one out for her. An illustration of her problem was offered by an American ex-pat living in Germany in which she's dressed for winter and asks if she's dressed appropriately since it's forty degrees outside.

First I started with a single memorized mid-scale value: 20°C = 68°F. Then going up or down from there by 5 degrees C is the same as 9 degrees F while for 10 degrees C it's 18 degrees F. And going up or down by a single degree C then figuring 2 degrees F is close enough (9/5). That is, start from a known point and work your way up or down. There are a number of videos from India that do the entire conversion formulae but in a simplified form using a factor of 2 (instead of 9/5) and an offset of 30 (instead of 32).

I finally settled on identifying temperature ranges of cold, cool, comfortable, warm, and hot, based around 20°C as the lower end of the comfort zone. Go lower and it gets increasingly colder; 10°C (50°F) is getting into winter temperatures. Go higher and it gets increasingly warmer -- at 30°C (86°F) it's getting hot. At 40°C (104°F) it is most definitely hot.

So to decide how to dress when you go outside, you mainly just look to see how far from 20°C you are. Which seems a lot easier to work with than the much wider ranges of temperatures in Fahrenheit.


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Message 618 of 623 (882707)
10-05-2020 8:41 PM


Looking for an Old Satirical Song
In the late 60's or the early 70's there was a song about the spread of venereal disease, kind of an exercise in contact tracing.

The words went something like "Bill gave it to Sally, who gave it to Sam, who gave it to Susan, who gave it to ... ". Pleasant enough melody.

For some reason I seem to recall that it was Mike Nichols and Elaine May who did it.

It just seems like it's time to revive that song except now it's COVID being spread. Especially with the news that the White House is refusing to do any contact tracing along with (as of a hour ago) still not requiring the wearing of masks.


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Message 619 of 623 (882711)
10-06-2020 4:42 AM
Reply to: Message 618 by dwise1
10-05-2020 8:41 PM


Re: Looking for an Old Satirical Song
That’s a Tom Lehrer song I think. “I got it from Agnes”

lyrics (Genius lyrics)

Edited by PaulK, : Added links


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Message 620 of 623 (882716)
10-06-2020 12:07 PM
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10-06-2020 4:42 AM


Re: Looking for an Old Satirical Song
That's it! I just looked in my songbook, "Too Many Songs by Tom Lehrer", and there it is, words and music, on page 126. The tempo is given as "infectiously".

I have Tom Lehrer's "That Was The Year That Was" and my high school friend had two more of his albums, but none of them have this song. The Wikipedia page for the 1997 Songs & More Songs by Tom Lehrer album says:

quote:
Songs & More Songs by Tom Lehrer is a reissue of musical satirist Tom Lehrer's two studio albums (Songs by Tom Lehrer and More of Tom Lehrer), combined with other studio sessions and a newly recorded version of "I Got It From Agnes". "Agnes" was a song from Lehrer's early live repertoire which he "polished up" for the Cameron Mackintosh-produced musical revue Tom Foolery in 1981, but which Lehrer himself never professionally recorded until 1996.

We had seen a community theater performance of Tom Foolery over two decades ago, so that might be where I had heard it. Some friends of ours were in that production. They said that in many of the performances the audience would sing along. A similar thing was reported by John Cleese from when Monty Python started doing live performances. He thought they were bombing because the audience wasn't laughing when they should, but then when he watched the audience he saw that they were all reciting the dialog to themselves along with the performers.

BTW, since I didn't know what the title of this song was, I wouldn't have found it on my own. Thanks.


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Message 621 of 623 (882728)
10-06-2020 6:15 PM
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10-06-2020 12:07 PM


Re: Looking for an Old Satirical Song
What are you going to do with it, dwise1?

Maybe update it and put out a video? Who gets to play Trump?


Factio Republicana delenda est.
I am antifa.

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Message 622 of 623 (882729)
10-06-2020 6:40 PM
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10-06-2020 6:15 PM


Re: Looking for an Old Satirical Song
What are you going to do with it, dwise1?

Enjoy a question having been answered. Knowledge for knowledge sake, which is my default mode.

And maybe bring it up in replies to the Trump cluster's actions and inactions. I still think that that's leaving out a key word, rhymes with "fuster cluck".

I'm also reminded of a skit on an early episode of Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In. Dan and Dick are two soldiers in a foxhole in Viet Nam talking about all the unit members they had lost. "Did you hear? Bill got it last week." "No! What about Bob?" "He got it yesterday." "Anyone else?" "Steve got it last night. In the shower." Dick starts scratching at his chest like he has a rash. "You know what, I think I've got it now too."

 
ABE:
And the next time I updated my YouTube tab, there was a video of "I Got It From Agnes" billed as the CORONAVIRUS Edition by one Broadway Barbara ("I Got It From Agnes" CORONAVIRUS Edition). So others see the connection too.

BTW, a week or two before the March shutting down started, I assisted a dance teacher friend with her West Coast Swing workshop class. Within a week of the shutdown, she informed me that one of the men in the workshop had tested positive. The one I had to work with closely because he was having problems with the footwork. Luckily neither of us have shown any symptoms.

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Message 623 of 623 (883101)
11-06-2020 3:12 AM


German Version of "Secret Agent Man"?
Watching Deutschland 89 I heard Martin, the protagonist (recruited against his will in Deuschland 83 as an East German spy operating in the West), drunkenly singing one line from a song. Even though he was unable to carry a tune in the state he was in, it seemed to fit the meter of the Johnny River song, "Secret Agent Man".

Does anyone know about a version of the song having been done in German? I have heard a Spanish version in a US beer commercial a few years ago.


  
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