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jar
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Message 78 of 200 (883002)
10-30-2020 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Phat
10-30-2020 3:48 PM


Re: Got Er Done
Phat writes:
In brief, overthrow of Western cultural identity.
What Western Cultural Identity Phat?
Phat writes:
Our position...our way of life...our identity through the traditional lens of family, church, justice.
What Church Phat? What family Phat? What justice Phat?
Phat writes:
By indoctrination. Granted, they may get students to think, which you champion, but all previous absolute assumptions are trashed and a new ideology is introduced. Perhaps I should ask who *We* is that fears this...and it is a bit simplistic to call the whole struggle as Globalism vs Nationalism, but just look at the refugees streaming into Europe.
Yes, Phat, yes you should actually start asking questions because what you post is simply juvenile pandering.
Phat writes:
In other words, I fear that one result will be a godless secular humanist post Christian culture...and I think thjat this is a huge mistake.
Why would that be a mistake. Why are you opposed to pacifism? Why should previously held untested absolutes not be challenged?
And no where will you find that I propose that humans are basically good. Not even the God you try to market is basically good. What I say is that good & bad are human constructs and we need to learn to be good.

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jar
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Message 87 of 200 (883015)
10-31-2020 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Phat
10-30-2020 3:48 PM


If you do nothing else; please read this
Republicans, Not Biden, Are About to Raise Your Taxes
quote:
The current poverty line for a family of four is $26,200: People with incomes between $10,000 and $30,000 nearly one-quarter of Americans are among those scheduled to pay a higher average tax rate in 2021 than in years before the tax cut was passed. The C.B.O. and Joint Committee estimated that those with an income of $20,000 to $30,000 would owe an extra $365 next year these are people who are struggling just to pay rent and put food on the table.
Of course, the poor have never mattered much to the Republican Party, but those on the edge of poverty have been particularly hard hit by the pandemic and the recession its caused, so Trump’s planned tax increases seem especially heartless, and impractical, when you consider that their higher tax payments, while a huge burden for them, will add little to the budget.
By 2027, when the law’s provisions are set to be fully enacted, with the stealth tax increases complete, the country will be neatly divided into two groups: Those making over $100,000 will on average get a tax cut. Those earning under $100,000 an income bracket encompassing three-quarters of taxpayers will not.
At the same time, Trump has given his peers, people with annual incomes in excess of $1 million dollars, or the top 0.3 percent in the country, a huge gift: The Joint Committee on Taxation estimated the average tax rate in 2019 for this group to be 2.3 percentage points lower than before the tax cut, saving the average taxpayer in this group over $64,000 more than the average American family makes in a year.
Trump, the current crop of Fascist Republicans but most of all the Conservative Evangelical Christian Apologists who have supported and lied about what has been going on already fucked you and all of the American Middle Class. Now of course they fucked their followers as well but then that's what they do. Them what count will be among those who benefit.
Edited by jar, : no "e" on "on"

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jar
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Message 98 of 200 (883029)
11-01-2020 6:56 AM


Paragraph 2 of Section 2 of Article 2 of the Constitution
quote:
In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.
The underlined part might well become significant. Congress has great latitude to determine what cases can even be heard by the Supreme Court and can place restrictions on which types of issues can be reviewed by the SCOTUS.

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jar
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Message 109 of 200 (883061)
11-03-2020 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by Phat
11-03-2020 8:33 AM


Re: Phats Election Day Prediction
Phat writes:
I dont agree with jar in that they are satanic---but I do think that they simply told conservative Christians what they wanted to hear anyway. They sold out.
LOL
The whole idea of Satan as some actual force is simply laughable.
They simply did what made them richer and more powerful.
What is so pitiful is that Conservative Evangelical Christians are so totally incapable of thinking that they will not ever see or believe they are getting fucked daily by Christian Profits.

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jar
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Message 118 of 200 (883071)
11-04-2020 8:12 AM
Reply to: Message 117 by AZPaul3
11-04-2020 7:59 AM


It is also looking likely that the Republicans will remain in control of the Senate.

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jar
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Message 128 of 200 (883081)
11-04-2020 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Phat
11-04-2020 1:27 PM


Re: ITS ALL OVER...in another Month
Phat writes:
He would likely not be for reparations and likely wou;ld be a nationalist more than a globalist...since He was a nationalist in regards to Israel.
No Phat, he was not a nationalist in regards to Israel and we've been over that many times.
Jesus writes:
But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;
But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow.
And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.
Sidon and Syria were not part of Israel but rather actually enemies.
Jesus was NOT a nationalist.

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jar
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Message 130 of 200 (883083)
11-04-2020 4:01 PM


The Fat Lady has not even put on her makeup.
There is still a long way to go and it is still very very likely that Biden/Harris will win the Presidential race. The Senate though is far less certain. The Democrats will almost surely pick up two seats and if Harris becomes President of the Senate the situation changes dramatically.

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jar
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Message 143 of 200 (883096)
11-05-2020 8:09 PM


I think a FIRST at least during my lifetime.
All three networks simply cut away from the Presidents Press Conference because he was telling nothing but Porkies.
I cannot remember when a major network simply walked away in the middle of a Presidential Press Conference.

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jar
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Message 148 of 200 (883102)
11-06-2020 6:48 AM
Reply to: Message 144 by Phat
11-06-2020 2:00 AM


Re: Meanwhile The Apologetic "Prophets" Whom You Call Satanic
Phat writes:
This could cause the greatest division ever seen between the secular progressives and the Biblical Christians.
Again you post just plain silly remarks. The division is NOT between secular progressives and the Biblical Christians but between what the Bible actually says plus progressives and the people who pervert Jesus message and call themselves "Biblical Christians".
The difference will remain regardless of the election outcome. It is the difference between REALITY vs fantasy, EVIDENCE vs belief, CONTENT vs source.
And the former always TRUMPS the latter.

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jar
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Message 151 of 200 (883105)
11-06-2020 9:05 AM
Reply to: Message 149 by Tangle
11-06-2020 7:45 AM


Please understand that regardless of the final outcome about 80 MILLION US adults voted for Trump. That is about one-third of all US adults.
quote:
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'

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jar
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Message 153 of 200 (883107)
11-06-2020 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by AZPaul3
11-06-2020 9:25 AM


That in particular the Christian Cult of Ignorance really is pervasive and ubiquitous and that at least one third of the US population is incapable of making decisions based on evidence, reality or morality.
They truly are deplorable and the world should tremble in fear.
AbE:
I want to emphasize that I am not saying that ALL those who vote for Trump are evil in anyway. They aren't. The are quite simply severely handicapped and should be pitied and accepted for what they can be rather than condemned for what they cannot be. For the vast majority it's unlikely that they will ever be able to think; that is simply no longer something that they will be able to learn I fear.
So they must be more than just tolerated, rather directed towards those areas where they might even excel. But it is cruel and unreasonable to expect them to be able to make evidence or reality based decisions.
Edited by jar, : see AbE:

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jar
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Message 156 of 200 (883111)
11-06-2020 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by Phat
11-06-2020 2:56 PM


Re: Meanwhile The Apologetic "Prophets" Whom You Call Satanic
Phat writes:
... God will simply stand back and let humanity try and do its best without Him UNTIL it fails.
Can you provide an example of some time when God did not just stand back?

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jar
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Message 167 of 200 (883124)
11-07-2020 1:10 PM


Trump is still President and will remain President until the Inauguration. BUT while he can still issue blanket pardons for any and all Federal Crimes he or any of his Crime Family have committed he has no pardon power for State or International charges. I will imagine that Every State, Every county, Every city, Every country are going to be subpoenaing the books for all Trump Inc dealings.

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jar
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Message 172 of 200 (883130)
11-07-2020 3:06 PM


74 days until Ding Dong
The big question I see is still whether or not Trump will stay or simply leave to try to avoid total bankruptcy and likely prison. He's been given notice that he is fired but he is likely not so dumb that he does not realize that he can't pay the 400+ million debt in HIS personal name coming due in January or that the prosecutors in NY State will not continue to pursue back taxes or that any of the TRUMP properties will be viable with the continued redirection of tax dollars that have been propping them up.

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jar
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Message 177 of 200 (883136)
11-07-2020 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 174 by Phat
11-07-2020 3:53 PM


Re: 74 days until Ding Dong
He owes far far more than that Phat. The 400 Million due in January is only the small part he PERSONALLY guaranteed. And yes, he has loans from both Russia and China. And in fact part of the investigations where he has been withholding the data involves his debts to many foreign powers.
Phat the man has been a failure at everything all his life. Why is anyone surprised that he was a failure as President?

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