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Message 1 of 484 (883164)
11-09-2020 8:31 AM


Good old science eh?

Covid vaccine: First 'milestone' vaccine offers 90% protection

But wait, was it all those prayers?


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"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 3 of 484 (883166)
11-09-2020 9:12 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by jar
11-09-2020 8:48 AM


jar writes:

Remember that in the US we can't even get everybody to get a Flu shot.

It's going to be interesting to see what the anti-vac brigade do about that. But if they stick to their dumb beliefs it'll be a self-solving problem.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 5 of 484 (883168)
11-09-2020 9:49 AM


Apparently the UK pre-bought 40m does - enough for 20m people (it needs two doses 1 month apart). Health service workers and at risk people get the first batch.

I wonder how they work out the allocation of the rest?

Stock market has gone ballistic.

Edited by Tangle, : typo


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 11 of 484 (883580)
12-21-2020 8:52 AM


Just when we thought things were looking up, we now have a new variant of the bug that is between 40 to 100% more transmissible and Christmas is cancelled. ffs.

I also have an employee, face down, ventilated, in intensive care not expected to make it and 4 of his close family infected.

Life is pretty crap at the moment.

edit:they're saying c50% now

Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 14 of 484 (883587)
12-22-2020 4:00 AM


It looks like the great Swedish experiment has ended in tragedy

“ For much of this year, those who object to measures to control the virus have hailed Sweden as a libertarian paradise, supposedly showing us how Covid-19 could be kept under control without intrusive government restrictions.

Of late, these champions have fallen silent. It’s not hard to explain why. Recent days have seen Sweden’s Nordic neighbours Finland and Norway offering emergency medical assistance as Stockholm’s hospitals have been overwhelmed, infections and deaths have spiked dramatically upward, and the King of Sweden has made an unprecedented criticism of the government’s bungled strategy.”

Sweden’s Covid-19 failures have exposed the myths of the lockdown-sceptics


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


  
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Message 16 of 484 (883630)
12-30-2020 7:26 AM


AstraZeneca vaccine now approved here.

Very good news; we have 100m doses and it doesn't need special storage. And it's cheaper than the mRNA vaccines.

I may get it by March with a bit of luck


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 19 of 484 (883641)
12-31-2020 3:13 PM


I reckon we'll now all be gauged on how fast we roll out these vaccine. At the moment Israel is winning.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations - Statistics and Research


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


  
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Message 21 of 484 (883648)
01-02-2021 4:06 AM


We've just changed strategies from two doses 21 days apart to two doses 3 months apart. The theory being that the first jab will give a high level of protection and we can get that protection into more people faster by delaying the second.

I think I just heard on the news that you Yanks are going to stick with the original plan?


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 24 of 484 (883651)
01-02-2021 7:34 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by AZPaul3
01-02-2021 6:44 AM


My deepest sympathy.

He's sulking and playing golf while the US burns.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 27 of 484 (883654)
01-03-2021 5:49 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Phat
01-03-2021 4:52 AM


Re: Throwing Luck and Chance Away
Phat writes:

Luck? There is no such thing. If so, please explain how it works.

In this case the luck involved is where I live. I happen to be near a good health centre and a major hospital. Had I been somewhere else it might be different. (Just like you being born in a Christian country luckily (sic) made you a Christian.) Pure chance.

As it happens a new piece of luck is that they're delaying the second dose which means the first dose comes faster to me.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 29 of 484 (883659)
01-04-2021 8:33 AM
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01-04-2021 8:27 AM


Re: Throwing Luck and Chance Away
... and that was lucky, was it not :-)

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 31 of 484 (883661)
01-04-2021 8:41 AM
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01-04-2021 8:37 AM


Re: Throwing Luck and Chance Away
So you think the no-show of a random customer was pre-determined then?

Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 33 of 484 (883663)
01-04-2021 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Phat
01-04-2021 9:19 AM


Re: Throwing Luck and Chance Away
You're quite mad...

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 35 of 484 (883668)
01-04-2021 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Phat
01-04-2021 9:38 AM


Re: Throwing Luck and Chance Away
Phat writes:

Am I mad? In what way do you see me as mad? Mad as in angry? Or mad as in crazy?

Crazy my boy, totally bonkers.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 43 of 484 (884844)
03-10-2021 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by Porkncheese
03-10-2021 12:17 PM


PnC writes:

Its a known fact that some people will have a severe reaction to the vaccines including lifelong disability and death...
However, there is no warning at all. In fact, they are lying to us by claiming it is "safe and effective"...

Evidence for this 'known fact' please.

Antivaxer, climate change denier ... anything else in your 'I'm a total nut-job' bag?

Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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