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Message 4424 of 4573 (883360)
12-01-2020 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 4422 by Phat
12-01-2020 12:22 PM


Re: Even If Trump WAS Your Real Problem Would You Lie?
do you believe that republicans in general are any more evil than liberals??
Defining "evil" as attempts to disenfranchise minority voters by the millions, doing nothing substantial to stem a plague ravaging the nation, legislating barriers to middle class, health & safety and equality programs, creating armed conflict rather then curtailing it and funneling $500 billion (that's billion with a "b") to highly profitable corporations while forsaking the rest of the people in this society...
then, yes, the modern republican party is evil.
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If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, Go in peace, be warmed and filled, without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
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Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Factio Republicana delenda est.
I am antifa.

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Message 4431 of 4573 (883493)
12-11-2020 12:41 AM


I think I'll just leave this here.

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AZPaul3
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Message 4433 of 4573 (883520)
12-13-2020 2:20 AM


Destroy the GOP!
No, not me. I most certainly approve of the goal, however.
MAGA Protesters Chant ‘Destroy the GOP’ at Pro-Trump Rally – Rolling Stone
How far away will the GOP move from the alt-reich MAGA crowd now?
Not much.
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Message 4441 of 4573 (883549)
12-16-2020 6:57 PM
Reply to: Message 4440 by Taq
12-16-2020 5:48 PM


Re: anything weird about this?
Given breaking news on Russia (hacking and poisoning) this one makes me wonder just how deep into US politics the Kremlin’s bear claw reaches.

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AZPaul3
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Message 4444 of 4573 (883554)
12-18-2020 1:11 AM
Reply to: Message 4443 by LamarkNewAge
12-18-2020 12:45 AM


Re: The Case Against Fluoridation. Rolling Stone says "boring as hell"
No more commie or Russian conspiracy theories.
But ... but ... these are the fun ones! They got republicans in 'em. Like pirates, all good scandal conspiracies have one or the other.
Next we're going to have reports of republican's kidnapping Grandpa's and Grandma's across the country taking them "covid" parties sponsored by the Russian embassy.
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Message 4446 of 4573 (883560)
12-18-2020 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 4445 by jar
12-18-2020 6:19 PM


Re: Laugh of the day.
I tried but couldn't make the cut. My intelligence score was too high.

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Message 4461 of 4573 (883656)
01-03-2021 10:33 PM


Trump direct interference in election count
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President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to find enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that legal scholars described as a flagrant abuse of power and a potential criminal act.

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Message 4463 of 4573 (883671)
01-04-2021 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 4462 by Tangle
01-04-2021 3:11 AM


Whatever he is planning he is already on notice that the US Military will not be playing along.
Memo to all commands from Joint Chiefs Chair Gen. Milley - June 2020 Message 3986
The Defense Secretaries letter serves to emphasize that point in these closing days.
Then there are the Proud Boys - Wikipedia. This and other such groups may flood Washington in an attempt to force Trump's success.
If that happens we may well see the US military in action. Washington DC is a federal enclave and the armed support of local DC police, unlike in a state where the National Guard handles such duties, comes from the United States Army Military District of Washington - Wikipedia.
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Message 4465 of 4573 (883674)
01-04-2021 6:46 PM
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01-04-2021 4:57 PM


And I imagine Erik still can call up support to 'put down' any insurrection.
That may be what brings in the US military ... to put down a Trump-led insurrection.

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Message 4467 of 4573 (883678)
01-06-2021 3:36 PM


Coup!
In case you haven't heard the USA is in the midst of a Trump-led right-wing coup.
Thousands of Trump volk stormed the capitol building and halted the electoral college certification. They are occupying the capitol building. This is after Trump addressed his thronging hoard at the white house. He deliberately sent them into a tizzy and ... off they went.
Shots fired.
At this time there is an armed mob swarming over the capitol smashing into capitol building offices. DC is in total anarchy.
Looks like the authorities are taking a slow armed-standoff approach without storming the capital building. They are picking out the rebels around the edges of the crowd, one by one.
But this cannot be allowed to stand.
Imagine. An alt-reich coup led by a criminal president happening right now in my home US of A.
I cry.
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Message 4472 of 4573 (883683)
01-06-2021 4:26 PM


OK. So, at this point the capitol building is in the hands of "protesters" and the authorities are in control everywhere else.
Trump, of course, is quiet. The white house has approved a "change of mission" of local National Guard units calling them in to respond. Which means what?
Only reports of one shot, in hospital.
Joe Biden, president to be, calls it an insurrection, laid at Trumps feet and "demanding" he call them off ... now!
There is curfew for 6 PM Wash DC Eastern time. the troops will be in place.
Those that came for confrontation will have their opportunity then.
Trump should be responding, reportedly a taped response to be aired, and ...
Good god what the fuck is this cheeto-brain going to say?
You gotta know he can only pour gasoline on a situation.
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Message 4473 of 4573 (883684)
01-06-2021 4:34 PM


Gasoline.

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Message 4478 of 4573 (883689)
01-06-2021 6:25 PM


Brace for Impact
Binden was uninspiring. Said the right words, had the right ideas, but, gawd, his delivery! Apparently none of his writers has any vocabulary. George W. Bush, not the brightest flame, was way more erudite.
Trump, though calling for the crowd to go home, was deliberately inflammatory in his childish way none the less. Who woulda knowd?
OK I know this is not the rise of the Reich, just a whole big bunch of really pissed-off Trumpers (as if there is much difference) and, yes, there are a whole huge lot of them, 10 thousand ++. An actual friggin army of Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Knights of the True American Spirit As Our God Intended, etc.
Trump got the shock he wanted. Now, so he thinks, His Cheeto is the power in town. He couldn’t care less what happens to his mob, now. You served your purpose. But, just like god, he loves you.
He’s gone back into his never-never land, and, unusually, twitter silent, except his taped response to this whole mess was done on the twit by the twit.
There may be more bloodshed tonight. Buzz in the media from conversations heard in the crowd is that it gets real tonight. Bravado? Plan?
Tonight is not the worry. The worry is what Trump’s insurgent army does next across these next few days as congress tries to complete the electoral count and plans for the inauguration.
So far, I am very favorably impressed with the non-confrontational initial nature of the local authorities. I know many say this invasion of the capitol building is worth fighting with heavy force, but the situation ended without the hundreds dead that could have happened. One dead, not sure how.
Well done, so far, DC police, who, apparently, are in charge of the response on the street.
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Message 4480 of 4573 (883692)
01-06-2021 7:17 PM


Putin is to be congratulated. His puppet performed very well.

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Message 4483 of 4573 (883699)
01-07-2021 7:53 AM
Reply to: Message 4482 by Phat
01-07-2021 5:11 AM


Re: Religious And Political Ideology Wont Disappear
I'm assuming that you value the global poor before preserving the US middle class (and working class).
No. That is your discordant view misrepresenting the issue.
We have our own global poor. I wish we could legislate away the evil of this striking economic disparity all over the world but we have no such power. We can, however, address this disparity in our society, here in the USofA.
Stop trying to obscure the national goal by objecting to a global strawman because that is not the friggin issue. We can secure our peoples healthcare, education and other liberal programs in this country. We'll tackle the global problem once we have gotten our own populations secured.
My worry is that the democrats will find ways to block economic freedom in the name of alleviating human suffering...making social payments (higher taxes) mandatory and spending the money on what republicans see as the wrong things.
What economic freedom? You have no economic freedom!
Your economic status is determined by the oligarchs, that 1% that controls 99% of our wealth, and they are not about to give up their $$billions without the force of this society. Confiscatory taxes on such excess wealth and the implementation of universal health care, universal education, jobs and food programs and, maybe, hopefully, universal basic income, are not just in order and justified but mandatory if we want to achieve the kind of society where you do not have to fight your employer and your union and the rest of society for basic human needs and dignity.
There is plenty of $$$. Plenty resources available to this country. We need to take that wealth and use it for our people instead of shoveling more $$billions into the elites' already swollen wallets.
The higher taxes you are so afraid of, you already pay by being economically deprived. That hidden tax you pay through the nose now goes, by 99%, to the elite instead of your wellbeing. We can change that.
Fuck the republicans and their view of "the wrong things"! They are the ones shoveling our wealth to the elites! The republicans are the ones sucking our national wealth into their masters purse to the tune of multiple hundreds of $$billion every year, Phat. That would pay for a lot of good for society but instead it is handed over to the super-wealthy in hope that they will trickle (piss down) some of that to the rest of us. Bullshit, Phat! Your fuckin republicans are the fuckin problem!
The political division will continue until you guys accept God or the Republicans give it all up, as ringo eagerly suggests.
Your god can do nothing. This is a problem with in reality not your fantasies. Doing nothing to stem this evil waiting on some ephemeral imaginary ghost to fix it is a stupidity that needs to be burned out of our society. It's crap.

Factio Republicana delenda est.
I am antifa.

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