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ringo
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Message 4411 of 4573 (883305)
11-26-2020 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 4399 by Phat
11-25-2020 3:25 PM


Re: Trump's not your real problem
Phat writes:
On the one hand you would have conservative fascists and on the other you would witches running the place!
Don't be an idiot.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Message 4412 of 4573 (883306)
11-26-2020 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 4402 by ICANT
11-26-2020 12:59 AM


Re: Trump's not your real problem
ICANT writes:
Could you explain what a democratic republic is?
In a republic, public officials are elected. In a democracy, they are elected by the people.
ICANT writes:
I know what a democracy a majority rules.
Nope. It's only fairly recently in the US that the majority is even eligible to vote.
ICANT writes:
In a republic the majority does not rule.
And in the US, many public officials are not elected - e.g. the Supreme Court, Federal prosecutors, etc.
So the US is neither a pure democracy nor a pure republic.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Message 4421 of 4573 (883356)
12-01-2020 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 4418 by Phat
12-01-2020 7:32 AM


Re: Even If Trump WAS Your Real Problem Would You Lie?
Phat writes:
If there was any sort of fraud, did the means justify the end?
Well "protecting" democracy by circumventing democracy is a bit like protecting the peace by going to war. There may be occasional cases where it's the lesser of two evils - but usually not.
But the bigger issue here is whether or not your voting system is so fragile that it CAN be circumvented. I don't think it is, but if it was, what you should have been concerned about was fixing the system.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Message 4447 of 4573 (883590)
12-22-2020 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 4435 by vimesey
12-15-2020 2:49 PM


Re: Oh dear
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor
Grandpa was telling his grandson about what he did in the Norwegian air force during World War Two: One of dem fokkers came at me from de left and I shot him down. Den anudder one of dem fokkers came at me from de right and I shot him down. An den anudder one of dem fokkers came at me from right straight in front and I shot him down too."
His grandson was eager to show how much he knew, so he said, "A Fokker is a German airplane, right Grandpa?"
"Dat's right. And every one of dem fokkers was a Messerschmitt."

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 4498 of 4573 (883718)
01-08-2021 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 4482 by Phat
01-07-2021 5:11 AM


Re: Religious And Political Ideology Wont Disappear
phat writes:
The political division will continue until you guys accept God or the Republicans give it all up, as ringo eagerly suggests.
I don't know when i ever said anything like that.
The political division will continue as long as people like you sympathize with the extremists.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 4499 of 4573 (883719)
01-08-2021 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 4487 by Phat
01-07-2021 2:58 PM


Re: My Two Cents
Phat writes:
Each side thinks they are the moral one and that the other side is evil.
The Republicans staged a putsch against the USA. Is that moral or evil?

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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