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PaulK Member Posts: 16671 Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
quote: Since neither is primarily biological a theory of biology is obviously NOT entitled to explain either.
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AnswersInGenitals Member Posts: 588 Joined: Member Rating: 7.7
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Actually, glAa is quite correct in stating that evolutionary theory does apply to the origin of languages and ethnic groups. It’s just not Darwin's theory of biological evolution. It’s the entirely well documented theories and facts of linguistic and ethnographic evolution.
And yes, he's still an idiot. Edited by AnswersInGenitals, : No reason given.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 4389 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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You picked what is perhaps the only word that is nearest to being universal because it is very likely onomatopoeic. That wouldn't make it a very good example.
Languages are grouped together into families based on linguistical similarities and common or close origins and then subclassified into smaller groups; eg, the Indo-European (AKA "Indo-Germanisch") family divided into satem and centum languages (based on their words for 100) and then further divided into smaller groups (eg, Italic resulting in Latin which spawned the Romance languages, or Germanic splitting into West Germanic, North Germanic, and East Germanic each of which split further into individual languages). On top of that, these languages rarely evolve (ie, develop and change, AKA "unfurl", over time) in total isolation, but rather are influenced by surrounding languages resulting in a kind of cross-pollination. English is a good example, starting off as West Germanic (still is in its basic grammatical structure), influenced by Latin through Christian missionaries, influenced by North Germanic Old Danish through the Danelaw (the eastern part of England settled by Vikings), then post-1066 acquiring a thick layer of French vocabulary through the French Vikings (AKA Normans, Norsemen who settled settled the northern coast of France, took local wives, and could not speak with their own children who grew up speaking their mother tongue, French), and in subsequent centuries continued to evolve while continuing to be influenced by other languages. I would also point out that writing slows down change within a language. When all you have is oral transmission, large changes can happen within just a few generations (much like oral traditions such as the stories of the Old Testament), but once you have written it down then that creates a lot of resistance to change. For example, I can use what I learned of Koiné Greek to decipher a lot of written Modern Greek even though two millennia have transpired, while we would have great difficulty understanding English from half a millennium ago. The prehistory and history of Europe are filled with the immigration of entire peoples, some speaking an Indo-European language and some not. We still haven't figured out where the non-IE Finno-Hungarian and Basque groups came from, nor Japanese (which is unlike any other language, perhaps evidence of its divine origins through Amaterasu, the Sun Goddess, though some think it might be related to Polynesian). His usage of the number 42 looks suspicious. Why 42? Because that's the The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything? (For the uninitiated still stuck out in the Outer Temple, the Ultimate Answer cannot be understood without knowing the Ultimate Question) That makes him sound like a QAnon conspirator whose writing was read aloud: the base of operations for the lizard people ruling us is Deep Space Nine (I shit thee not!). Should we also note that this talk of lizard people posing as human sounds virtually identical to the 1980's sci-fi TV show, V. I guess one thing we cannot expect of conspiracy theorists is originality. A few quotes about English: "English is the results of the efforts of Norman men-at-arms to make dates with Saxon barmaids in the 9th century" "English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar." "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." According to verbivore Richard Lederer, some vocabulary sizes:
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PaulK Member Posts: 16671 Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
This is English:
The English of about a thousand years ago. The changes in the language are not the result of biological evolution. Anyone who thinks otherwise is daft.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 4389 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Absolutely true, though you can't convince a creationist of that. The word "evolution" first appeared around 1610. "Turning out" or I guess "unfurling." How things or systems form and develop and change over time. So there's stellar evolution, which is how stars for and change over time. Nothing to do with Darwin. Darwinian evolution is just part of biological evolution which is one specific type of evolution, one which operates entirely differently than stellar evolution. Or cultural evolution. Or linguistical evolution. For whatever reason, creationists seem to think that there's this one single idea called "evolution" that they're completely against even though they don't know what it is. Four decades of asking creationists to explain what they are talking about and not one single answer in all that time.
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anglagard Member Posts: 2245 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
Damn dude, you are excellent at this EVC (aka Knowing the difference between shit and shinola, with a few exceptions on their part) thing and that is an understatement.
You know your shit big time and it is more than about time I praised you for it, along with any shinola you may wish to provide. The problem with knowing everything is learning nothing. If you don't know what you're doing, find someone who does, and do what they do. Republican = death
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ringo Member Posts: 18854 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.5 |
Which 42? Wikipedia lists more than a hundred. "I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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jar Member Posts: 33102 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 3.7
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42 the answer of course.
Did you bring your towel?
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