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Message 4516 of 4573 (883743)
01-09-2021 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 4513 by nwr
01-09-2021 3:39 PM


Re: Missing Faith.
My poor dear. She's fallen deeper into dementia than I thought possible.
I still hold a soft sweet spot for her but, damn, that's evil.

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Message 4526 of 4573 (883778)
01-10-2021 3:11 PM
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01-10-2021 2:05 PM


Re: Trump finally succeeds for the first time in his life.
I am a Conservative Phat but not a Fascist.
Are you sure? You got a proper birth certificate? Germany? Arkansas?

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AZPaul3
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Message 4529 of 4573 (883790)
01-11-2021 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 4528 by Tanypteryx
01-11-2021 7:23 PM


Re: Four Years Later Here We Are
I hope you're wrong. But even if you are wrong about the timing they will come out eventually. If not next week then next year, next decade. This is far from over.

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AZPaul3
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Message 4531 of 4573 (883792)
01-12-2021 3:19 PM
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01-12-2021 5:51 AM


Re: Four Years Later Here We Are
Be kind and sympathetic to Trump supporters - anger and condescension won't sell the product.
I disagree, strongly.
Stern measures, public censure, shaming, insult, loss of jobs, curtailing influence and power, and more, are justified and necessary or these seditionist criminals will come back quicker, stronger and more entitled than before.
The teltale is that at this point the republicans in congress refuse to disciline their own group of seditionists. No calls from the republican leadership or their caucuses have been made to censure and remove these traitor. They don't care. They are twisting and spinning every which way to excuse what happened at the Capitol seeking as much political advantage in the wake of this seditionist mess.
The republicans in congress are not interested in peaceful accommodation. They supported the Cheeto in his attempts to reverse the voice of the people. The loud public recriminations of outrage that should be coming from the republican side of the aisle are silent. That is assent to the sedition.
No accommodation. There are outrages that require hard recriminations to all involved as a warning to future insurrectionists. This is one of them.
No accommodation. No kindness. No sympathy. Five lives were lost. All involved should be charged, tried and imprisoned for murder.

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I am antifa.

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AZPaul3
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Message 4534 of 4573 (883796)
01-12-2021 5:01 PM
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01-12-2021 4:17 PM


Re: Four Years Later Here We Are
It's not the perpetrators and violent bastards I'm referring to - it's the people who voted for them ...
So am I.
No accommodation.
You know what is happening here. Europeans had their own experience with them last century.
The Nazis are back. The hard-core alt-reich. We tend to list only the more infamous of them, like the proud boys, etc., but there are literally 1000s of such groups in this country spread all throughout and energized by that Trump vote.
The Nazis are back.
We all know what has to happen next.
But we’ll start by doing this as legally (stretched) as may be allowed. They will bring the rough stuff soon enough that will require stronger responses. When they come for war we will accommodate that request. They will have it.
Online, wherever they seek to congregate, must be exposed and ridiculed, insulted and threatened in whatever legal ways possible.
Center on military and local police where many Nazis now dwell. They need to be found, exposed, and set to public ridicule. Then fired. Massive public protest if they are accommodated. Same for the county sheriff, justice of the peace, any official in any capacity who displays any racist, alt-right emblems on any media or whose speeches, utterances, tweets and sympathies are known to be hate-based bigotry. There are plenty of them around.
For all such hate groups identified, membership should be grounds for hate crimes jail-time increases whenever and wherever a nazi is convicted of any crime.
Missed child support. Parking. Well, ok, maybe not yet.
We need to find these people and expose them now. I hope we have the will.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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Message 4538 of 4573 (883800)
01-12-2021 5:44 PM
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01-12-2021 5:40 PM


Re: Four Years Later Here We Are
Flynn was bad enough at that level but what concerns me more or the Timothy McVeighs.

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AZPaul3
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Message 4542 of 4573 (883804)
01-12-2021 7:02 PM
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01-12-2021 6:16 PM


Re: Four Years Later Here We Are
Thank you, jar. That was comforting.

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Message 4551 of 4573 (883837)
01-14-2021 11:14 AM


Faux News major objection today is the use of gender pronouns by the democrats.
We have just had a president attempt a coup using his radical alt-reich fascist militia and Faux News is slinging insults to democrats for gender pronouns.
Faux News is a seditionist alt-reich mouthpiece. Their conspiracy to lie Trump into a second term at the expense of our democracy should elicit a backlash against the network but the advertisers and supporters are not American enough to be incensed by these actions. They, as well, support the sedition.
Question whether we can hold our democracy under such relentless deep domestic fascist attacks.
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AZPaul3
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Message 4555 of 4573 (883878)
01-16-2021 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 4553 by PaulK
01-15-2021 3:34 AM


That's why they carried guns and twist ties. But they were just a bit late. Pence, Pelosi, McConnell were all dragged from their chambers to saferooms just before the mobs entered.
This thing would (not could) have been a lot bloodier if the mob had managed to capture the congressional leadership as they planned.
Trump's coup failed because the mobsters were somewhat more incompetent than the capitol police.

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Message 4562 of 4573 (883946)
01-19-2021 11:03 AM


Summarize the Trump presidency? I think everyone politically sane would agree that this has been the most corrupt, incompetent, dangerous and disastrous presidency in our nation’s short existence.
What is even more damning to the nation is the republican’s refusal to stop the obvious ongoing disaster when handed the opportunity. The Republican Party played power politics for its advantage while the nation suffered. So much for statecraft and the good of the nation.
If open corruption in office is not an impeachable offence then nothing is. If an open call for seditious insurrection is not an impeachable offence then nothing is. In republican hands the impeachment power of the congress does and means nothing.
Now what the country needs is for Trump to be put on trial. All the dirty laundry from the lies and conspiracies to the fomenting of insurrection as well as the seditious support he received from the Republicans in both chambers, has to be brought onto the official record for all of history to condemn.
After Trump’s conviction and banning from future office his republican enablers and fellow seditionists need to be censured and expelled from both houses.
The fallout from this presidency will poison the American body politic for decades. We may not survive the coming rise of the alt-reich so enabled by this president. If not, then a torn bloody fascist nation will be added to the legacy of the seditionist cheeto criminal despot wannabe Donald John Trump.
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Message 4569 of 4573 (883977)
01-20-2021 10:55 AM


Biden

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