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LamarkNewAge
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Message 5 of 120 (883988)
01-20-2021 6:33 PM
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01-20-2021 6:07 PM


Re: Reflections In The Tidal Basin
I don't watch TV, for the while anyway, but I ran a Google search for Steve Cohen of Tennessee. Only congressman I searched in a while. He has lots of crazy partisan crap, almost all the time. Even moderate Democrats can package conspiracy theories, but the catch is to make sure it is aimed at a prominent Republican of the moment.

It seems he had some dirt:

He seemed to say that the National Guard is all white male, thus 80 percent supporting Trump. He wasn't finished. He said the Guardsmen would turn arms against Biden during his inauguration.

Actually, the guard is 30 percent minority and 17 percent female. Roughly 55 percent white male.

Cohen likes to brag about his black wife, and he even attempted to become the first white member of the Congressional Black Caucus . Many feel that he does this to keep his job. His district got redrawn in 2012, and it went from majority white to 80 percent black. He won in 2002 due to blacks splitting the Democratic primary vote, while whites supported him.

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Message 8 of 120 (883992)
01-20-2021 8:28 PM


There was an anti-impeachment group created around 1998.
Called, appropriately enough, MoveOn.org .

We all need to scream MOVE ON from the rooftops.

Perhaps, a MoveOnFINALLY.org needs a creation, since extreme necessity is the muther f×××er of invention.

Don't let a bunch of the same stupid things happen in 2021 that happened in that bygone era of 2020.

Let us leave all idiocy behind. Idiots can have idiotic thoughts & feelings, but they don't need to ruin the momentum of the moment, by sinking this entire nation into a pathetic idiocracy. The post Jan 20 impeachment crowd runs the risk of turning Trump's idiotic administration, of 2017 to 2021, into a worse congressional spectacle for the present and future.

If idiocy was a crime, then impeachment supporters could take our nation into a more criminally moronic direction than even the endless misdemeanors of the past 4 Trump years, and thus commit full fledged stupidity felonies - for which the whole nation would have to suffer.

Move On! Get to work on the nation's business.

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Message 10 of 120 (883996)
01-20-2021 9:58 PM
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01-20-2021 9:28 PM


Re: There was an anti-impeachment group created around 1998.
Show me your best quote that Trump called for insurrection.

I just see stupid political babble, so far.

( The nation's break in was a weak attempt at insurrection, granted)


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Message 12 of 120 (883998)
01-20-2021 10:01 PM
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01-20-2021 9:28 PM


Re: There was an anti-impeachment group created around 1998.
And don't forget that Democrats have been impeaching Trump for years.

So this is already pain purdue.

Old and old. Painful for the nation, enough.


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Message 16 of 120 (884007)
01-21-2021 1:08 AM


Biden's supporters better understand that an issue agenda is the be all and end all
"Trump the bastard" is not an issue agenda.

The public voted not only to put Trump behind us, but also for Democrats to spend all of their time on good policy solutions and good policy generally. Covid 19 saved Democrats from the political sinkage they earned in the wake of loosing a fruitless battle to make a Russia/Trump conspiracy out of thin air, so why do Democrats want to make more political baggage for themselves with a stupid post-Trump-presidency attempt at removal from office? Just to try and score more cheap political points? Tacky, Tacky, Tacky. And the political glitter comes at the expense of actual policy efforts the voters want Democrats to tackle.


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Message 20 of 120 (884012)
01-21-2021 1:36 AM
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01-21-2021 1:29 AM


Re: Biden's supporters better understand that an issue agenda is the be all and end all
A reputable poll has 86% of Democrats somewhat supportive or strongly supportive of removal from office.

That means that 1 Democrat is not supportive while 6 are.

So save the partisan politics.

You can get around to connecting dots, once you provide some quotes of Trump calling for a break in.


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Message 22 of 120 (884016)
01-21-2021 2:17 AM
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01-21-2021 1:58 AM


Re: Biden's supporters better understand that an issue agenda is the be all and end all
So Trump possibly wanted an attack?

Great case.

Great proof.


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Message 24 of 120 (884019)
01-21-2021 2:40 AM
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01-21-2021 2:18 AM


Re: Biden's supporters better understand that an issue agenda is the be all and end all
So a president who failed to get 47 percent of the vote - twice - is somebody who you fear in 2024?

I am not sure what logic is in anything posted.

I actually though somebody here had some sort of evidence, though I suspected it would be strained.

Actually, the case seems non existent. Here, anyway


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Message 27 of 120 (884022)
01-21-2021 2:54 AM
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01-21-2021 2:47 AM


Re: Biden's supporters better understand that an issue agenda is the be all and end all
I asked for just one quote earlier, and only claims came.

Save your interpretation until after quotes are presented.


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Message 28 of 120 (884023)
01-21-2021 2:58 AM


God, I hope this discussion is not going to be related to the Senate's legislative ag
agenda.

The title of this thread, the discussion...

A bad signal for the nation.

Bet it won't take long for the nation to tire with attendant frustration and disconnect


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Message 31 of 120 (884027)
01-21-2021 3:12 AM
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01-21-2021 3:10 AM


Re: Biden's supporters better understand that an issue agenda is the be all and end all
Did I miss the Trump quote earlier?

Which post?


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Message 45 of 120 (884062)
01-21-2021 6:57 PM
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01-21-2021 5:58 PM


Re: +, the logical AND function
I don't think that the legislative branch is doing much of what you described. At any level of government, be it state, local, etc.

There are 100 United States Senators and they have a very limited schedule. Chuck Schumer said the ObamaCare fight prevented Democrats from working on many other, & more fruitful, legislative priorities. He lamented the party wasting its amazingly rare filibuster-proof majority.

Clinton was known to be consumed by the endless investigations during his presidency. So was the entirety of the federal government's legislative branch.


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Message 62 of 120 (884230)
01-30-2021 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by xongsmith
01-30-2021 12:43 PM


Trump tax cuts were only $150 billion a year, at most.
The Trump tax cuts were harmless, except they punished the responsible states for taking an economic risk in placing higher taxes on income, as opposed to the race to the bottom jacking up of the sales taxes.

(Trump ended the exemption on state and local taxes)

The corruption in the Supreme Court (supporting Amazon's push to fraudulently rule that sales taxes took place where the consumer lived, as opposed to the actual transaction point at the business location) compounded the problem. In fact it was 1000 times more damaging.

(Needless to say, Amazon stock soared, once the smaller competitors had sales taxes put on their consumers, despite the fact that they could have their business in Oregon, Montana, Delaware, or New Hampshire AS OPPOSED to the Amazon behemoth operation in all 50 states. Jeff Bezos became the richest man)

Trump did increase the standard deduction for EVERY person by a good amount, and he said he wanted to do more, so that helped reduce the amount of people itemizing deductions, to his credit. It will reduce the number of corrupt itemizing options, overall, but it stunk that he hit the residents of responsible states arbitrarily. It encourages sales taxes to be higher still, and income taxes lower still. Bad for the poor in 100 ways, and not just on the face of it

Trump gets attacked fow lowering the corporate tax to 21%, but the revenue loss was not so much, really.

I am amazed, considering the $10 trillion debt increase the past year, that people still bitch about a $100 to $150 billion a year tax cut. Still? Really?

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Message 73 of 120 (884393)
02-15-2021 12:01 AM


Democrats are inheriting another fiscal mess.
Obama sat down in his fresh Oval Office chair in January,2009, and was told he had a $1.2 to $1.3 trillion deficit for FY 09, or October 1, 2008 to September 30, 2009.

The previous fiscal year had a $ 454 billion deficit.

Obama passed a $787 billion stimulus plan, to be used equally the next 2 years.

$388 billion more per year, for 2 years. It included $70 billion in Alternative Minimum Tax cuts, Republicans asked for, plus other stimulus money that both parties supported, though Republicans preferred a smaller stimulus.

Much of the money was to state and local governments, all of which had massive budget shortfalls - some were 40% short on revenue .

The stimulus essentially prevented state and local governments from having to raise taxes in an economically deadly way.

The stimulus package difference between a hypothetical Republican proposal ( which never came) and the Democratic plan was probably around $200 billion a year, before the macroeconomic factor would make the difference perhaps half that dollar amount.

Regardless, Obama had a $1.6 trillion deficit his first fiscal year( which included 3 months and 20 days of Bush's last year)and 1.9 trillion for FY 2010, October 1, 2009 to September 30, 2010.

He got blamed for increasing the deficit from $454 billion to 4 times the amount.

By the time he left office, deficitsvwere down to $500 billion a year, or roughly the same inflation adjusted yearly increase.

FAST FORWARD TO FY 2021

Another Republican administration has come and went.

Now deficits are in the multi trillions.

Bush 43 inherited a surplus of over $200 billion in 2001.

Left with a projected deficit of $1.3 trillion WITH the need for a very large stimulus.

Trump inherited a $500 billion deficit and managed to oversee an exponential increase in his 1 term.

Typical?

Expected?

What is the best way to Express your feelings and expectations?


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Message 75 of 120 (884401)
02-16-2021 12:01 AM


Could it get paid in an inflationary scenario?
Look at all of the foreigners that hold our treasury bonds. If the currency suddenly got devalued 30 percent, then we would see perhaps trillions of dollars invested in property, just from foreign debt holders alone.

Many more Americans would convert their inflating dollars into land holdings and investment property assets.

Now, I think a progressive federal property tax would then be in order ( it is highly called for now, if we ever want to get a grip on actually solving problems). The higher the property value, the higher the yearly tax rate.

We have experienced periods of foreign investment in housing in the past. It was inflation driven, and Japanese investors were the ones driven (70s and early 80s) to buy property assets, though the federal government refused then, like now, to have a saner tax policy.

In New York, subway expansion is funded with a not so secret stealth tax effect. But it is not stealthy at all. Just build a new subway route, and the streets and houses located along the lines see exploding property values, which then leads to higher property tax burdens. The new lines gets paid for over time.

I think the debt is payable. Inflation combined with capital gains & dividend tax increases would have to be part of the eventual solution.

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