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Phat
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Message 3 of 120 (883986)
01-20-2021 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AZPaul3
01-20-2021 4:56 PM


Reflections In The Tidal Basin
Were they the same color as jesus?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 4 of 120 (883987)
01-20-2021 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
01-20-2021 4:28 PM


Well if so, count me on the mailing list if you want my vote next time. Of course we all have to pay ourselves back. So the only thing it stimulates is my blood pressure and heart rate.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 35 of 120 (884033)
01-21-2021 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by AZPaul3
01-21-2021 3:29 AM


Re: Biden's supporters better understand that an issue agenda is the be all and end all
OK lemme get this straight. Was it the Domestic "Terrorists" plus the cheeto making speeches against the newly elected party?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 47 of 120 (884145)
01-23-2021 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by anglagard
01-23-2021 3:38 PM


Re: Message to Republicans
It all boils down to money. You simply cant hand it out if you don't generate any.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 54 of 120 (884219)
01-29-2021 8:42 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by Percy
01-28-2021 7:11 PM


Percy writes:

The limits seem generous, but aside from that what I'd really like to see is the bulk of the stimulus going to unemployed and needy people. People who have kept their jobs have much less need for stimulus checks.

perhaps this is theoretically so, but the cutoff should not be simply at having a job versus not having a job. Some jobs barely pa1y the bills...and we need a stimulus too. The bills have piled up this past year.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 58 of 120 (884226)
01-30-2021 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by Percy
01-30-2021 8:31 AM


. Response To Needy People
I think you bring up some good points regarding my reasoning process on this issue. I think that I consciously or unconsciously view myself as a needy person in regards to stimulus checks. The buck can stop at some point, but I feel it should always be right above me.

I know that you have a decent lifestyle yet I also realize that you likely have some hefty expenses. Your property taxes likely are not cheap. That being said, I see no reason why everyone should not qualify for either a stimulus check or good unemployment insurance.

The real issue is government debt and how far it can realistiucally increase. I have always said that in Biden's term, we will see inflation...and possible abandonment of the US dollar if things get too far out of hand. The dollar coupled with our ability to create more of them with the stroke of a pen gives the US citizens an advantage which the world may not soon tolerate. Which worries me.

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 60 of 120 (884228)
01-30-2021 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by xongsmith
01-30-2021 12:43 PM


Re: . Response To Needy People
Here is the thing though. The top 10% of the wealthy can always find ways to avoid paying US taxes. They can live elsewhere and make sure that their holdings are diversified out of Uncle Sams reach.

It irritates me, but I honestly think we cant force them to pay. Isnt it true that they (top10%) dont actually pay that much on wealth but only on income?


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 74 of 120 (884400)
02-15-2021 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by LamarkNewAge
02-15-2021 12:01 AM


Re: Democrats are inheriting another fiscal mess.
Keep in mind that the deficit is the shortfall amount in one budget year. The DEBT is the sum total of all deficits. The amounts are all off of the charts. This bill wont get paid due to the fact that every American owes close to $100,000 were it shared equally. One can only kick a can down a road while there is even a road.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 77 of 120 (884404)
02-16-2021 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by Percy
02-16-2021 7:24 AM


Re: Democrats are inheriting another fiscal mess.
Because unlike our mortgage, the principal on this debt keeps growing...lately to the tune of over a trillion dollars a year. The principal is growing faster than even the possible payments could be.

Soon, every bit of the tax dollars collected will have to go towards paying just the interest. There is no 35 year or 50 year plan to pay the debt off.

I am no economist, but to me this means that eventually the government will have to admit default.

The US Dollar itself may well be the next bubble.

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 115 of 120 (885192)
03-27-2021 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by AZPaul3
03-24-2021 9:03 PM


How Many Is Too Maany?
AZ writes:

we have the infrastructure for mass crossings. But not enough dedicated to the issue of controlled immigration humanely conducted.

I am all in favor of controlled legal immigration, but the challenge is as to how many people we should let in and at what rate?

One Night At The Border Shows How Immigrants Are Hoping Biden Will Treat Them Differently: “We Have To Take That Risk”
From the link:

quote:
People say, 'Don't come, it's too dangerous,' but there are no options for us back home," Kevin, a 28-year-old Honduran man who made the journey with his wife and son, told BuzzFeed News. "We have to take that risk."

Immigrants, especially an increasing number of children, are making a gamble that the confusing and disparate enforcement of border policies will mean they will be lucky enough to slip through and stay rather than be sent back to dangerous Mexican border cities, or separated from their loved ones. The higher number of immigrants being met by Border Patrol agents after crossing into the US have led to bipartisan calls for President Joe Biden to do more to dissuade them from making the journey in the first place.

But Kevin, who asked to only be identified by his first name, said he didn’t know what the political environment was in the US and maintained that he would’ve made the journey anyway. Holding his son in his arms, Kevin tried to calm his wife's nerves by reminding her to breathe. In a scramble to get out of the inflatable raft, she had fallen into the water.

Kevin was a barber in Honduras and made enough to support his family, but the coronavirus pandemic put him out of business. Then two hurricanes pummeled Central America, destroying their home. They tried rebuilding, but the double whammy of the pandemic and the hurricanes forced them to leave their home in January.



I am in favor of humanitarian aid as a moral duty, but I also know that there are limits. Its a bit like inviting people to stay at your house. You can support only so many. Too many and your life gets disrupted, your food gets eaten, your expenses increase, and you are forced to share with an unknown number.

Our people should have some say as to what that number is.

Percy writes:

...We should build up our ability to deal with the migrant influx until we can treat everyone humanely and compassionately.

And I maintain that in a literal sense everyone is too many. Again, it is like my house analogy and how many people you would be willing and able to let in your front door. It most certainly can never be everybody.

Granted we need a young and strong group of hard workers who will help support those of us old enough to retire on social security. Perhaps we need some sort of rule that in order to be allowed to work here, taxes must be collected and social security need be paid by these workers and future citizens.

Edited by Phat, : added Percy


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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