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Author Topic:   Climate Change Denier comes in from the cold: SCIENCE!!!
ringo
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Message 543 of 942 (865403)
10-24-2019 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 533 by Faith
10-23-2019 8:23 PM


Re: Carbon Removal Technology? Anybody heard about this?
Faith writes:
It was said on the radio and went by very fast. Somebody mentioned that there is now some kind of technology that can remove carbon from the atmosphere.
Even here in the backwoods of Saskatchewan we've been experimenting with carbon-capture for years. I just heard on the news recently that somebody is experimenting with sequestering captured carbon in concrete buildings. And so on.
You really need to get a better source of news.

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ringo
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Message 593 of 942 (871451)
02-03-2020 10:51 AM
Reply to: Message 592 by marc9000
02-02-2020 9:49 PM


Re: An Inconvenient Truth
marc9000 writes:
Rhode Island's gasoline and diesel excise tax is 35 cents per gallon.
Fuel taxes in the United States - Wikipedia
How will that be made up?
Are you unaware of the concept of government? They can tax anything. They can tax the sun and the wind.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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Message 612 of 942 (871887)
02-14-2020 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 610 by Phat
02-13-2020 3:42 PM


Re: An Inconvenient Truth
Phat writes:
jar writes:
It's easier to be unlearned than to learn.
It's also easier to maintain comfort (even if the process dooms the future) than it is to toughen up and do the hard work.
Ignorance is bliss - but hard work is surprisingly satisfying too.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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Message 629 of 942 (872237)
02-23-2020 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 618 by marc9000
02-16-2020 8:49 PM


Re: An Inconvenient Truth -- still true
marc9000 writes:
Coastal flooding is a prediction....
I just want to point out that coastal flooding effects everybody, not just people who live on the coast.
I live at about 1800 feet but we depend on imports and exports, so the water may not be lapping on our doorsteps but it's flooding the seaports that everything we use and produce depend on. Whatever they have to do to survive the flooding, we have to help pay for.
Fortunately (I guess), Canada only has a handful of major seaports, so we don't have to spread it too thin. Other nations may have to pick and choose which cities survive.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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Message 726 of 942 (884665)
03-01-2021 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 722 by marc9000
02-27-2021 9:23 PM


Re: An Inconvenient Truth -- still true
marc9000 writes:
Now, if you'll pick ANY ONE thing there, and show me (links would be nice) how it can be produced without fossil fuels, we can discuss it.
Sweaters - wool
Boats - wood
Dresses - wool, cotton, linen
Tool Boxes - wood
Clothesline - hemp
Curtains - cotton, linen
Food Preservatives - salt, vinegar
Shoes - leather
Skis - wood
Tool Racks - wood
Yarn - wool
That's more than one already, and i didn't even read the whole list.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Message 734 of 942 (884677)
03-02-2021 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 730 by marc9000
03-01-2021 10:20 PM


Re: An Inconvenient Truth -- still true
marc9000 writes:
It requires steel to cut wood. Can't get steel without fossil fuels.
charcoal <-- wood
Takes tools, (plastic, steel) to shear sheep.
Flint.
Salt, vinegar, leather, the processing of them takes fossil fuels in several ways.
Nope. Nope. Nope. All of them were in use long before fossil fuels.
And all those things have to be transported by trucks, all currently powered by fossil fuels.
Feet - powered by broccoli.
Have you heard of history at all? Or did that begin with fossil fuels?

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 736 of 942 (884688)
03-03-2021 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 735 by Phat
03-03-2021 10:54 AM


Re: An Inconvenient Truth -- still true
Phat writes:
I think that his point is that we the people will never regress in history and become Quakers simply to "save the planet".
And that point is wrong. It happened when the Roman Empire collapsed, for one example.
Paht writes:
There will always...ALWAYS be a selfish group of people (likely close to 30% or more) who will keep using fossil fuels to "fuel" their lifestyle.
Only if they can get fossil fuels. If most people accept alternative energy sources, fossil fuels won't be economically viable.
Imagine loving Zeppelins so much that you "can't" give them up.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Message 744 of 942 (884708)
03-04-2021 11:07 AM
Reply to: Message 741 by marc9000
03-03-2021 8:43 PM


Re: An Inconvenient Truth -- still true
marc9000 writes:
We can't go back to primitive, labor intensive methods...
And yet we're always trying to create more jobs.
marc9000 writes:
... and expect to keep up with current volumes of what is required in today's world.
The current levels are not sustainable.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 802 of 942 (884877)
03-11-2021 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 796 by Phat
03-11-2021 3:21 AM


Re: Far Right vs Far Left Ideology
Phat writes:
Blaming the Biblical Christians wont solve anything.
Again, it comes down to doing what we CAN do. We can vote the Biblical Christians out of office, so they can't make it easier to blow up the earth.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 864 of 942 (887603)
08-13-2021 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 862 by Phat
08-12-2021 7:04 PM


Re: My Reaction to Dire Predictions
Phat writes:
When humans are under pressure and their lifestyles are threatened...as well as the livelihood of their children...then all sorts of demons will manifest.
Religion is one of those demons.
Phat writes:
Survival knows no empathy.
It really does, though. Humans are social animals, descended from social animals for millions of years. We have empathy because it works.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 875 of 942 (887640)
08-16-2021 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 874 by Tanypteryx
08-16-2021 10:59 AM


Re: Hot Enough For You?
Tanypteryx writes:
One of the more famous insects where we are seeing these effects is the Monarch butterfly....
Around here, the environmentalists encourage people to attract butterflies (because we like butterflies) by letting plants like milkweeds grow. Meanwhile, the city government still considers milkweeds a "noxious weed" and if you don't kill them a city crew will come and do it for you and add the cost to your tax bill. After more than twenty years of fighting them, I finally gave up the house. Now I go around seeding milkweeds as much as I can.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 898 of 942 (893851)
04-21-2022 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 897 by Phat
04-20-2022 9:09 PM


Re: Texas Toast
Phat writes:
Personally, I don't believe in that pagan stuff....
It has nothing to do with anything "pagan". Mother Gaia is just the human's inner voice, like the serpent in Genesis 3 was Eve's inner voice. It takes the form of "somebody" telling you a truth that you don't want to hear. It is not a separate entity. It could have been done with a soliloquy.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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ringo
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Message 903 of 942 (894966)
06-03-2022 9:03 PM
Reply to: Message 901 by Dredge
06-03-2022 3:33 PM


Re: Texas Toast
Dredge writes:
The lecturer told us all about Gaia, a manifestation of paganism which is apparently something science students need to know about.
I never heard anything about Gaia or paganism at university.
Dredge writes:
Weird.
Weird that you would think it's weird. Weird that you would believe it's true.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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ringo
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Message 911 of 942 (895033)
06-06-2022 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 910 by Dredge
06-06-2022 9:49 AM


Re: Texas Toast
Dredge writes:
It's weird that you think it weird that I thought it was weird.
It's weird that you pick such trivia to respond to. There are plenty of posts with more substance that you could have replied to - if you had any substance.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 934 of 942 (895307)
06-21-2022 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 928 by Dredge
06-20-2022 1:21 PM


Re: Texas Toast
Dredge writes:
If "global warming" were causing alarming rises in sea levels, two countries especially would be screaming blue bloody murder - the Netherlands and Bangladesh. But what do we hear from them? Sweet bugger-all.
You're not thinking straight.
1. The Netherlands have been dealing with sea levels for centuries. They're waaaaaay ahead of us in the game. Instead of waiting for them to whine about it you should be looking to them for solutions.
2. Bangladesh is a poor country. It can't afford to do anything about rising sea levels. All you're likely to hear from them is about more deaths.
3. I live more than a thousand miles from the ocean at an altitude of about 1800 feet. We grow a lot of wheat and canola around here and we have a small population so we export most of it. If the oceans rise by just a couple of feet, the port facilities in Vancouver will require a lot of rebuilding, which will cost billions. That will take a big bite out of our wheat and canola revenues.
Everybody ie affected, if not directly, then indirectly.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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