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Author Topic:   Who & what are the demons ?
ringo
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Message 346 of 349 (885280)
04-01-2021 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 333 by Phat
03-25-2021 1:47 PM


Re: Which Scenario Would You Prefer?
Phat writes:

The only "evidence" we have about demons is found in scripture.


You mean the "dusty old book" that you reject when it's convenient?

Phat writes:

Of course your arguments attempt to neuter scripture as being an impotent story...


Well, YOU are the one who rejects scripture.

Phat writes:

... and that it is in no way equal to the words defining the evidence of the scientific methodology of definition.


What?

Of course the Bible is NOT equal to scientific methodology, if that's what you're getting at.

Phat writes:

It does not take Rocket Science to interpret the scripture.


That's what I keep telling you.

Phat writes:

We will either exist in eternity with Jesus and the Holy Spirit or we wont exist at all, as you suggest.


Nonsense. "We" includes Christians. If "we" become extinct, it will be because Jesus and every other God failed to save us.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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ringo
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Message 347 of 349 (885281)
04-01-2021 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 339 by Phat
03-28-2021 12:32 PM


Re: Which Scenario Would You Prefer?
Phat writes:

What do you expect me to do? Deny the reality of my experience pending objective evidence?


Yes.

The only honest explanation for your experiences is that you can't explain them.

Phat writes:

I could be in for a long wait.


It took centuries to figure out that Newton was wrong (incomplete).

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Phat
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Message 348 of 349 (885543)
04-17-2021 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 345 by anglagard
03-31-2021 9:53 PM


Re: What I Have Observed
anglagard writes:

Phat, your response does not make sense to me.

I note this fact. Sometimes I can come across nearly as arrogant as MTW.

Do you see the difference in our subsequent behaviors?
I am beginning to. You are most definitely a classy and humble well educated individual. I am just an old man who gets bored and has nothing better to do than argue on EvC. Pray for me.


I took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Please explain this comment because as I read it, you are the sworn domestic enemy of every Veteran in the USA.
Well when you put it like that!... Thanks for making me accountable for what I say....even if only for a minute.

I'm still gonna do that Matthew/Bernie Sanders thing one of these days. It might be good for me.

anglagard writes:

Phat, for some reason I believe you can be saved even if you don't know what that means. You have some humility, some (but too little) respect for several core religious figures. My advice is to talk less (and unknowingly embarrass yourself) and learn more. Yeah, I'm hard on you, but it is for a reason.

Thanks. I appreciate that.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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robertleva
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Message 349 of 349 (885744)
04-25-2021 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Bailey
01-03-2009 10:46 AM


Hello, I am replying to the OP only.

You overlooked that the satan still had some access Heaven before Jesus was born. The story of Job tells us this. After the resurrection, all such access was cut off. The enemy was defeated at that point once and for all. Jesus claimed the keys to hell and he locked the enemy away for all times.

Demons are the enemies minions, fallen angels and perhaps other things as well. I have my own theories but it matters little.

Humans can hear both the Lord as well as the enemy. This is an internal connection that you can feel right this very moment. The enemy seeks to lead you from the Lord. He will use what you are most vulnerable to, sins of the flesh are a common tool but do not ignore the mental traps either! I think that is what you are doing here.

If you read only one thing I wrote let it be this: All you need to do is accept Christ. There is nothing else, at all that you need for salvation. If you honestly accept Christ the life that you live will be filled with opportunities to bear His light to the world. Be a bearer of light brother, ignore all the ways the enemy tries to make you doubt your own faith. Do not let the enemy humiliate you on the inside for your faith. He will constantly try to do this brother, be wary of it.


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