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robertleva
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Message 318 of 530 (885827)
04-27-2021 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 316 by vimesey
04-27-2021 3:33 PM


Re: Why Stick Around? My Belief
I guess I still don't understand why you are all in this particular thread? No one has answered that. This thread is about how people of faith pray and personal experiences with God. Why are you unfaithful even here if the entire point of the thread presupposes the audience have faith?
You give yourselves away I'm afraid. You all have plenty of places to share your thoughts about how silly believers are, but when you choose to come into a thread like this which is specifically supposed to be a place for people to share their faith...
I see you. I deny you. You will never have this follower of Christ.
Edited by robertleva, : No reason given.

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robertleva
Member (Idle past 1082 days)
Posts: 35
From: Seminole
Joined: 04-23-2021


Message 322 of 530 (885831)
04-27-2021 4:01 PM
Reply to: Message 319 by PaulK
04-27-2021 3:46 PM


Re: Why Stick Around? My Belief
quote:
You may indeed be a lost cause, mired in dishonesty and delusion - and I don’t refer to Christianity. But even that doesn’t mean that I am wasting my time by correcting your falsehoods. The truth is important, whatever you may think.
You are completely right my brother. I still love you as a son of almighty God. Say anything you want to about me. I will accept it all and more, brother. I love you and I forgive you and I pray for you. God bless.
-Most folks call me Rob.

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robertleva
Member (Idle past 1082 days)
Posts: 35
From: Seminole
Joined: 04-23-2021


Message 325 of 530 (885834)
04-27-2021 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 323 by Phat
04-27-2021 4:01 PM


Re: Dr.Lennox
quote:
Robert, check out this link. Message 1
Loved this thanks for that!
I will try and tune out the noise and speak to you specifically Phat. Here is an interesting idea I had about our prayers:
To sum it up I was thinking that Jesus may well be beyond time, and so we can send Him prayers right now to console Him during the time of crucifixion. We can let Him know that He is saving millions of souls and we appreciate it and we are thankful and grateful to Him. Even if that is not how it works, I figure the Lord knows the intent of our hearts regardless and this is a good prayer no matter what.
The story of the night before the crucifixion hits home for me personally too. It tells of Jesus asking for His apostles, His friends, to stay up all night for some company. He knew what was to come, the enormity of it, and He wanted some company to share that burden with. The apostles...fell asleep.
This story hits me because there have been so many nights when I felt dread about the next day for what ever reasons. I have been blessed to have had a wife to be there with me during these times. We get through these testing times with prayers and faith. I pray for Jesus to receive comfort then as well, if it possible.

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robertleva
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Message 329 of 530 (885843)
04-28-2021 7:08 AM
Reply to: Message 327 by ringo
04-27-2021 8:28 PM


Re: Why Stick Around? My Belief
quote:
Many of us used to have faith.
One must learn to differentiate between the glory of almighty God, and the evil that has been done in His name. I am on your side most likely in most of what you do not like about religion. I claim no "sect" of Christianity, I am simply a man who accepts Christ as his savior and I try to read and follow the Bible. I pray for the understanding to know Him better as well.
I think dividing Christians into "Catholics" and "Protestants" is the work of the enemy. There is only one core belief that matters and that is faith in Christ. As long as we share that, we can be saved. I have long been wary of any type of organized religion, the organizations themselves, NOT the flock.
That is not to say that the churches do nothing to help the flock, of course they do. I just feel like the time has come to destroy all the trivial details that we have been using to divide up the Christian population.
I ask you to set aside all this negativity that consumes your posts for a second and rationally consider this question: Is it possible that the evils done in the name of God have stopped you from giving believers a fair chance here on this forum?
Edited by robertleva, : No reason given.

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robertleva
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From: Seminole
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Message 331 of 530 (885848)
04-28-2021 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 330 by jar
04-28-2021 7:15 AM


Re: Why Stick Around? My Belief
quote:
Christianity is NOT about getting saved, it's about making this life better for all.
The Salvation Christianity is the work of Satan.
This is false gospel or just a fundamental lack of knowledge of what Christianity is. Either way, no. Christianity is salvation through grace of faith. Jesus said "No one gets to the Father except through me." This is the only path. We must accept Christ as our savior. There is nothing else, no other requirements, just faith in Christ and we are saved.

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robertleva
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From: Seminole
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Message 335 of 530 (885869)
04-28-2021 10:16 AM


It's not complicated. Faith in Christ is all we need. Simple for some, or maybe very difficult depending on who you are. Ultimately you must sacrifice that human pride and accept that only through Christ can we be saved. For me this was easy, once I really understood the stakes.
I will not lie and say that my faith has always been here and always been so strong. Like many on this forum I was once mired in the same Naturalism / evolution doctrine that had been preached to me since I was a child. I learned it all and pushed to the edges of known science in physics. Thankfully, God saw me through all that garbage I was living in and pulled me out of the trash pile. This is one of the many things I thank the Lord for.

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robertleva
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From: Seminole
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Message 337 of 530 (885878)
04-28-2021 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 336 by nwr
04-28-2021 10:49 AM


quote:
But what does that mean?
Jesus said that we should love our neighbor. For me, faith meant that we should follow those teachings even when we were doubtful of their value.
But, for most Christians, faith means believing is a ridiculous made up story.
I'm very thankful for the chance to reply to this. Just accept Christ. You need not take any other step, though many do choose to go farther. All I ask is that you simply accept Christ as your only means of salvation and eternal life.
The rest of it can surely ADD to that faith, and yes I would highly recommend more, but the only absolute requirement is simply an acceptance of Christ in your life. My faith teaches that if you do this, you will be redeemed upon death and saved.
Seems like a pretty good deal huh? It is, but it wasn't always. We live now under the terms of the "New Covenant". All we need to do now is accept Christ. The "old Covenant" was a much more complicated thing, and its only purpose was to ultimately bring about the New Covenant.
The harsh nature of the Old Covenant is where folks abuse the scriptures to serve their own purposes regarding gay folks and other perceived injustices of the old testament times. All you need to understand is that Jesus came and destroyed all of that, and all we need to do now is have faith in Christ because we live under new terms.
Under these new terms everyone and anyone is called! Gay / straight / anything / Muslim / Jew/ Hindi EVERYONE IS WELCOME!
Just accept Christ and join the redeemed in eternal life my brother!
Edited by robertleva, : No reason given.

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robertleva
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From: Seminole
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Message 339 of 530 (885880)
04-28-2021 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 336 by nwr
04-28-2021 10:49 AM


quote:
Oh, good. Perhaps you can tell me what is this naturalism doctrine. I am frequently accused of naturalism, but I have never been able to work out what it even means. An actual presentation of the doctrine would be helpful
I won't engage in any sort of debate on this but Naturalism is the belief, taught in elementary school science texts, that all things in the universe have a "natural" explanation. Even when we encounter something that seems supernatural we are to automatically assume it is simply a natural explanation we currently do not know.
It is faith you see, faith in man, or mankind's inevitability. Take your pick. That faith though has a much, older heritage you see. It's the original lie: Live for yourself, you are not accountable God.
It's the enemy's lie; Dressed up in palatable scientific terms, with about 7 billion rabid zealots ready to go to war for it.

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robertleva
Member (Idle past 1082 days)
Posts: 35
From: Seminole
Joined: 04-23-2021


Message 345 of 530 (885892)
04-28-2021 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 340 by nwr
04-28-2021 12:02 PM


quote:
Yes, we should look for a natural explanation. But there's no guarantee that we will always find one
This is the very foundation of faith brother. I am glad to hear it.

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robertleva
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Posts: 35
From: Seminole
Joined: 04-23-2021


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Message 360 of 530 (885908)
04-28-2021 3:50 PM


Phat if you want to discuss anything feel free to message me. Taking a step back and looking at the state the thread is in, full of vitriol and toxicity, and I realize I've been used. I initially intended to try and only speak to the OP and or faithful folk but I failed at that.
Maybe some hidden good came from me posting in this thread I am not sure but all I can really do is apologize for sowing more seeds of discord at this point. What ever sins I have committed here or anywhere else for I repent them in the of Jesus. I love you all as brothers and sisters and I apologize for robbing any of you of any peace or joy. God bless.

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