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Phat
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Message 865 of 868 (886033)
05-03-2021 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 864 by jar
05-03-2021 6:41 AM


Re: So What About Jesus?
See? This is what confuses and even annoys me about your beliefs. Of course they are personal and are yours alone...but how you can claim to be a Christian when the very Christ on whom the name is based is said by you to be a human creation? And then you have the gall to ask other Christians how they know that Jesus lives, or the Holy Spirit lives, or the God we market lives. Sad at best and Scary at worst.

The way that I can and will answer that is based on what I make of myself the next few years. And yes, I agree with you now that Christianity is measured by what we do rather than simply what we believe.

I always ask you what about the apologists. Granted you have opened my eyes as to the many instances of fantasy based thinking, dishonesty, and willful ignorance within Biblical Christianity.
But you dont see God the way I see God. Which is OK...hey, to each his own. But the way you describe Jesus is troubling. How you can wear the badge that says Christian is only because of your empathy and critical thinking skills, coupled with your inclusive (as opposed to exclusive) belief system. The Left Christians may take you. I still see you as more of a humanist, however. I see myself as all in regarding the living Christ. Now, my main challenge is to show ringo that understand and do what the good book says. Or to show Jesus. Or to show myself.

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