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Author Topic:   Trump and Trump supporters keep using the Y2K Fallacy, and it is driving me crazy
vimesey
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Message 76 of 190 (886105)
05-06-2021 6:39 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by Tanypteryx
05-05-2021 7:55 PM


The right wing has a strong vested interest in, and a strong track record of seeking to undermine expert scientific, medical and economic opinion. For the most part, that opinion is heavily weighted against the privileged greed of the right wing's puppet masters (eg the clear economic evidence against any benefits (to the vast majority) of trickle down; the undeniable weight of scientific evidence for climate change and the looming disaster that presents). At every turn, complex but well evidenced expert opinion is attacked and denied, so that they can sell their simple carnie spiel to people who don't understand the evidence, and who are being (and have been) trained for a long time to dismiss experts as part of a non-existent global conspiracy.

Denying the existence of the y2k threat is just another example of that brainwashing agenda.


Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 78 of 190 (886110)
05-06-2021 12:18 PM
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05-06-2021 11:44 AM


It's such a shame that people can and do fall for this stuff.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 85 of 190 (886756)
06-05-2021 11:07 AM
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06-05-2021 9:30 AM


Here’s a fairly simple exposition of why global warming (or climate change) can lead to certain parts of the planet experiencing extremely cold snaps:

This Is Why Global Warming Is Responsible For Freezing Temperatures Across The U.S.

Basically, it’s the impact of overall global warming on the polar vortices. Worth a read.


Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 130 of 190 (889384)
11-22-2021 3:37 PM
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11-21-2021 1:30 PM


Besides, crying wolf (which is what inaccurate predictions are, really) is unlikely to convince anyone, isn't it?

The fact that somewhere not far off half of Americans believe that the Presidential vote was "stolen" and that QAnon (home of some of the world's most ludicrous conspiracy theories) is the bringer of The Real Truth (TM), rather suggests otherwise.


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