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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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Adding to everything you listed, the Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope in orbit along several others, orbital X-ray observatories, detecting gamma-ray bursts and all sorts of other high energy phenomena. A global network is coordinating observations at a wide range of wavelengths and energies and I think I read that they will also coordinate with the LIGO and Virgo gravitational wave observatories.
All these observatories coordinating to capture rapid transient astronomical events has opened up fertile new areas of research. Later this year the James Webb Space Telescope will be launched and should blow all our minds. It even turns out using those advanced computer analysis of the gravitational wave signal reveals lots of additional fine resolution data from what initially looked like noise around the signal. I am planning to live long enough to see this true golden age of astronomy!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: |
And even before CCDs analog astronomy was rarely about looking through the telescope but rather was all about photography. In 1975 I bought a Questar telescope that was only 3.5 inches in diameter. It was laughingly small but also considered to be one of the best pieces of engineering to be produced in the 20th century. Visible eye observation is a dream with it. I can see the Giant Red spot and the Cassini Division and non-astrological viewing is mind blowing. Astrophotography with film was tricky but still fun and I remember people cooling their film with dry ice, but I can't remember why right now. I think it was in the 80's after the Voyager missions that CCD devices started to become available to the amateur astronomers. The problem with film was always that you had to wait for the film to be developed to see if you got anything. Digital gives you instant feedback on success or failure. In my own case, I was happy to discover that photography through my Questar with a DSLR produces images that are far superior to my film days with far less fussing around.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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Yes, people, Phat does have a sense of humor. Well, he shouldn't quit his day job!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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Today there were several articles in my SciTechDaily news feed about clever, innovative astronomical studies to refine the measurements of the expansion rate of the Universe, plus, is it uniform in every direction? And using gravity waves, specifically created by merging neutron stars, to tell us about all about these stars including the orientation of of the rotating pair.
Gravitational-Wave Scientists Brilliant New Method to Refine the Hubble Constant – The Expansion and Age of the Universequote: I think this was a pretty good article about this study with a lot of good background into the questions we are trying to ask about dark energy that might clues to which questions might increase our understanding of what is observable and how to do that.
Dark Energy Experiment 16 Years in the Making Could Illuminate Origin, Evolution, Fate of Universequote: Both these articles are fairly well written. Occasional articles in their list I would say the best part was the title. Some had whole paragraphs repeated in the same article, but every day I find good articles about studies and findings in the branches of science and technology that interest me. One thing I like about SciTechDaily is a nice list of references for every article. It's interesting reading while my imaging computer is processing thousands of images every day. A question just occurred to me, Do gravity waves have an effect like the electromagnetic red-shift from cosmic expansion? Another question, why is the speed of gravity the speed of light? Is it coincidence or is there an obvious link between gravity and light that I am overlooking?What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: |
Do gravity waves have an effect like the electromagnetic red-shift from cosmic expansion?
Apparently, yes. Not to be confused with "gravitational redshift" where a photon expends energy to leave the gravity well. Is it coincidence or is there an obvious link between gravity and light that I am overlooking? The tie in to Maxwell from Special Relativity shows the "speed of causality" in the equations. GR gives the same constraints on gravity wave propagation as does Maxwell show for EM. Thanks, good answers! I'm anticipating the development of the field of gravitational wave astronomy that will open new views of the Universe the same ways that light, radio, X-ray, and Gamma-ray astronomy have. I can imagine the gravity data being used to create visible images of the Universe similar to the images created using various parts of the electromagnetic spectrum. I am disappointed that I will not live long enough to see it developed into a mature branch of astronomy.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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One of the positive features of science, that is often unrealized by non-scientists, is the tradition and responsibility to train the next generations of aspiring scientists. This is not just giving students a sampling of the accumulated knowledge previously acquired by scientists in a specific field, but how to engage in science and apply the scientific method to understand observations.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq |
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: |
Today I read an interesting article on SciTechDaily and learned about a major global astronomy collaboration.
Mapping the Universe’s Earliest Structures and Dark Matter Distribution With COSMOS-Webb quote: I love that they describe it as a large patch of sky, but to us it seems like an awfully small patch of sky.
quote: This is so cool!!! They are looking at this patch of sky over the entire electromagnetic spectrum.
quote: They have some ingenious methods of mapping dark matter halos around galaxies.Some humans can achieve amazing things working together.
A question occurs to me that maybe Son Goku can answer or give us the leading hypothesis. Why doesn't dark matter clump together like regular matter does, in denser and denser clumps? I usually see dark matter described as more amorphous halos around galaxies. Is the repulsive force of dark energy acting more strongly on dark matter than normal matter?What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: |
The major issue with dark matter is it appears to not respond to any electromagnetic force. EM is the force that causes matter to clump. No EM no clump. I don't understand what you are saying here. Are you talking about matter forming compounds with shared electrons or some other aspect of electromagnetic force, like magnets attract each other? I was thinking of the clumping of matter due to gravitational attraction, like the extreme clumping we see in planets, stars, and black holes. Do you think dark matter can form black holes and/or is it more concentrated where we see mass concentrated? I guess what I am asking is, is there an hypothesized explanation, for why dark matter, that we can only detect by how it gravitationally effects the stuff we can see, does not seem to form extreme concentrations of dark matter? Or does it, and I just misunderstood the descriptions?
We see two big lobes of gravity separated from their colliding galaxies. We know it’s there because of the gravitational lensing of objects in the background. Milky Way is hypothesized to be wrapped in a dark matter fog out to twice+ our visible stellar population. What would keep it a fog? Why doesn't it become more concentrated by its own gravitational attraction?What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: |
Great answers, thanks so much!!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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Before the discovery of Dark Energy, we heard constantly about how just a tiny percentage of matter, as a ratio of the whole of space in the Universe, would literally be able to pull all of space back to a singularity. I remember hearing dozens of hypotheses about every single aspect of how the Universe works and every aspect of cosmology, which is basically the same thing. I remember hearing hypotheses about what astrophysicists thought the effect would be on the expansion of the Universe with different proportions of matter. You seem to think there was a consensus, but there never was because we didn't have enough data. In science there are always scientists who question each other's work. Scientists propose explanations for observations and everyone talks about them for a while and they turned every which way to see if they work. Sometimes they work and every time someone someone figures out a new way to test it their new data confirms it. Sometimes the observations start to look like their hypothesis is incomplete or even wrong. If you only heard one thing constantly then you were listening to the wrong people.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: |
Plenty of solid equations showed that space was affected by matter. Even to this day, with Dark Energy thrown into the mix. Yeah, you can't do any of this without math, but it also takes precision observations. Most of our observational power has been developed since then, covering the whole electromagnetic spectrum, plus gravitational waves.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Even the very existence of Dark Energy is based on assumptions. The biggest one is whether gravity has been correctly understood. You seem to be pissed off because there are limits to our knowledge. That's why we have dozens of new specialized telescopes and observing satellites coming on line. We're learning more all the time. This is the golden age of astronomy!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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This is the first solution to the problem of extinction level impacts that might actually work and that could work with much less warning time.
Planetary Defense: Physicists Propose New Way To Defend Earth Against Cosmic Impacts quote: quote: quote: UCSB Experimental Cosmology Group quote: Space agencies around the globe should start planning tests. This would be a much more useful project for the billionaire rocket men than sending dimwits into space.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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