Who's the bigger offender: Conservatives or Liberals?

I'm just like Trump, it doesn't matter what I say, it's automatically wrong because I say it?

Yes. Finally, you begin to understand.

marc writes: I'm just like Trump, it doesn't matter what I say, it's automatically wrong because I say it? Yes. Finally, you begin to understand.

Except it's not solely because Trump and marc said it (and hence are playing that stupid hypocritical "I'm a victim!" game which is virtually identical to "true Christians'" stupid hypocritical Christian persecution game), but rather because both have such a long history of being so incredibly wrong in every way possible.

It's like approaching every creationist claim like it's just another lie. Experience has taught us that that is the safe bet and best practice. Assume that they're lying until you can verify their claim or statement. Lend any credence to what they say only after you have found it to be true. Yeah, like they would ever make a truthful statement!

Edited by dwise1, : Added to last sentence " and best practice. Assume that they're lying until you can verify their claim or statement. Lend any credence to what they say only after you have found it to be true. Yeah, like they would ever make a truthful statement!"

marc2k writes: Their goals for America scare the living shit out of me. Those assholes are passing laws making it legal to run down protesters with a motorized vehicle, for fuck's sake! See what I mean? Please link me to these "laws". Your 4 approval dot providers should be able to help you. Please include more vulgar words.

Multiple news sources report that "Republicans in Oklahoma's State Senate last week passed an "intimidation" bill which grants immunity to drivers who hit protesters."

GOP lawmakers in Oklahoma, Iowa, Missouri, Utah and Florida have either introduced or already passed bills that increase penalties for protesters and provide legal protection for even potentially violent counter-protest measures.

Yes but in defense of Marc, what gives *you* the high ground? And what makes 50% of us wise and 50% of us foolish?

M2k writes: The NY Times is now described as "chief cheerleader for the left". They did not begin that way, and there's still some belief among the public that they're still a legitimate news source. But that belief is fading fast.

What gives you the impression that there are two sets of facts? That there is division? That only some are persecuted?

dwise1 writes: Except it's not solely because Trump and marc said it (and hence are playing that stupid hypocritical "I'm a victim!" game which is virtually identical to "true Christians'" stupid hypocritical Christian persecution game), but rather because both have such a long history of being so incredibly wrong in every way possible.

What is it that makes Marc 100% wrong when he only uses 50% of the facts to begin with?

AddbyEdit: Maybe you guys would claim that Marc doesnt properly know what a fact is. In which case I'll just keep observing these exchanges....pity if I have to wait 6 months for Marc to engage again, however. I'm likely as close to conservative as anyone else he will find here.

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

What's your question?

I cant believe that Oklahoma Republicans are that callous...or clueless...wait maybe I can.

I cant believe that Oklahoma Republicans are that callous

Then you must have been in a coma.

Yes but in defense of Marc, what gives *you* the high ground?

Reality.

Phat writes: Yes but in defense of Marc, what gives *you* the high ground? And what makes 50% of us wise and 50% of us foolish?

I'm in the middle of something else right now and was just scanning through the thread as a way of taking a break, but I have to reply to this.

Marc is repeating lies and falsehoods, and now we find out after spending considerable time beginning to nail down the specifics of his lies and falsehoods (it's tough because he ignores old ones and adds new ones at a considerable rate) we find that he's just going to abandon discussion. I began by asking him if this was a drive-by and he said no. I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football but tricked again.

--Percy

What gives you the impression that there are two sets of facts? That there is division?

Huh??? Whatever gave you that nonsensical idea?

That there is division?

The only division I know of is between reality and delusion. Normals stick with reality. The delusional lose themselves in delusion.

Are you trying to argue for delusion?

That only some are persecuted?

What?

Nothing I have written has anything to do with any actual persecution. Rather, we have all these fakers who keep screaming that they are being persecuted. "Conservative voices are being silenced" while they are practically the only voices we can hear. "Christians are being persecuted" just because they are no longer being allowed to persecute non-Christian (or vulnerable minorities within the Christian community).

What is it that makes Marc 100% wrong when he only uses 50% of the facts to begin with?

He doesn't even begin to use 50% of the facts. Nor 10%. Nor even 1%.

Basically, when someone uses only falsehoods, then how can anything they say not be wrong?

I cant believe that Oklahoma Republicans are that callous...or clueless...wait maybe I can.

Believe it. I mean, what part of "Republican" do you fail to understand?

Oklahoma passes a law that can protect drivers who run over protesters.

An interviewee remarked that his child recently asked him how the Nazis could have ever taken power. His reply was "Just look at what's happening now."

Marc is repeating lies and falsehoods, and now we find out after spending considerable time beginning to nail down the specifics of his lies and falsehoods (it's tough because he ignores old ones and adds new ones at a considerable rate)

What I have to ignore, and what I have to add, is because I'm facing a frantic gang by myself. You have no idea what it's like, you and your helpers here couldn't do it.

...we find that he's just going to abandon discussion.

From Message 65

marc9000 writes: I'll be back this weekend. If it's only to offer more fiction and error, why bother?

Sure not easy to keep you happy.

marc9000 writes: I'm just like Trump, it doesn't matter what I say, it's automatically wrong because I say it? Yes. Finally, you begin to understand.

I do understand, thank you.

Definition of bigotry | Dictionary.com

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noun, plural big·ot·ries.

stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.

the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.

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Interesting how Hollywood and the mainstream media sealed the use of that word against only conservatives.

How a Foulmouthed Bigot Named Archie Bunker Charmed—and Changed—America

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Archie has a gruff, overbearing demeanor, largely defined by his bigotry

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Archie Bunker - Wikipedia

A bigot who taught us tolerance

But the meathead was never called a bigot.