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Message 120 of 773 (886434)
05-19-2021 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by AZPaul3
05-19-2021 11:31 AM


marc9000 writes:
I'm just like Trump, it doesn't matter what I say, it's automatically wrong because I say it?
Yes. Finally, you begin to understand.
I do understand, thank you.
Bigotry Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com
quote:
noun, plural big·ot·ries.
stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.
Interesting how Hollywood and the mainstream media sealed the use of that word against only conservatives.
How Archie Bunker Changed TV—and America—Forever | Time
quote:
Archie has a gruff, overbearing demeanor, largely defined by his bigotry
Archie Bunker - Wikipedia
A bigot who taught us tolerance – Chicago Tribune
But the meathead was never called a bigot.

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Message 125 of 773 (886503)
05-22-2021 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by Percy
05-19-2021 9:34 PM


There is no bigger insult than to ignore what someone says while calling them names and bearing false witness.
I'm on the receiving end of that more than I practice it, and you know it.
Message 706 (DrJones, to me)but I have to say something when I see some sister fucking hillbilly arguing for the prolonging of slavery,
Do you believe him, that I was arguing for the prolonging of slavery? But the jokes on him, I don't even have a sister haha, so there.
Are you staying or going in this thread?
Well I did screw that up, the main thing I was thinking when I said that was that I would now disengage in this thread with the longer and longer exchanges that you and I often get into. I didn't expect to see some of the more tantalizing messages from a few of the others. But here's exactly what I said;
quote:
I'm now done in this thread, so you and your helpers can have the last word that you crave. I'd like to explore a little more in the "Is Science Atheism" thread, maybe in the climate change thread, then I'll be gone again for 6 months or a year, just maybe checking in every once in a while for amusement.
Just tying up a few more details here, then I promise I'm done in this thread. But the "Is Science Atheism" thread holds a lot of promise for some new questions that I have, as does the climate change thread, though to a lesser extent.

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marc9000
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Message 126 of 773 (886504)
05-22-2021 7:45 PM
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05-20-2021 3:04 AM


Re: Why, Yes, Marc. Our sky is blue. What's yours?
blah blah blah
My views represent more of mainstream America than do yours, and that's a fact.
What did you think of the Ronald Reagan presidency? Let me guess, you weren't born yet. My views pretty much mirror his, and he won really big in 1984, though he didn't have the burdens of having to respond to "Black Lives Matter", "defund the police", and "Global Warming", etc. Democrats have invented a lot of new things since 1988.
I'll note your answer (maybe), but won't respond.

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marc9000
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Message 127 of 773 (886505)
05-22-2021 7:53 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by dwise1
05-20-2021 7:36 PM


For example for the link to a CNN report I provided to Phat...
Finally we have a link, I asked others for links to that claim. Let's look at a description of that / those laws;
quote:
Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt signed a bill Wednesday granting immunity to drivers who unintentionally injure or kill protesters while attempting to flee and which stiffens penalties for demonstrators who block public roadways, according to the Oklahoma State Legislature.
UNINTENTIONALY??? Is that the reason others wouldn't provide links, is that the reason you didn't show any text from the link? Unintentionally injuring or killing while attempting to flee threatening mobs who are blocking roads? A big part of the reason for these types of laws is to discourage mobs from blocking roads! HELLOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Now I'm done in this thread.

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Message 360 of 773 (889492)
11-30-2021 8:29 AM
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11-29-2021 11:51 AM


Re: s against us.Re: Darker Future For USA
What you guys fail to understand is that many of these so-named victims would never know what to do with a stimulus check or a reparations tax break if it were handed to them. The reeducation must happen first. The reparations and lavish tax breaks will only be effective after that. Same with jars' observation that had the US helped the world (they)would have been better off. Never mind that many of "them" use our own weapons against us.
One quick question Phat, has your opinion of Trump gone up at all in the past 6 months or so?

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marc9000
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Message 364 of 773 (889499)
11-30-2021 9:10 PM
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11-30-2021 12:47 PM


Re: Mandatory Empathy and Government Control
But now it is my turn. Let me ask you a question. Where do YOU stand spiritually? Beyond the context of right-wing politics, are you a believer in Jesus Christ and His eventual return? Do you see the sin in yourself as I see in myself? Do you see that the progressives substitute mandatory empathy and aid to the poor for a decision which should be individually and freely made?
I'm sorry my posts don't more clearly convey my Christianity. The reason they don't is because at a forum like this, the atheist leftists often try to portray any Christian as someone who favors the imposition of all, or most, or some Levitical law into mandatory government rules. Practically no Christian conservatives do of course, they favor the traditional liberty and limited government concept that the founders (many of them Judeo-Christians) had. And that includes some basic Judeo Christian principles in how people should live and associate with one another. And it doesn't include a worship of the planet, the climate, or the government.
I think a mistake that may atheists and Christians alike make, is to not carefully consider the differences in Biblical teachings in how individuals should act, versus how societies should act as a whole. As an example, a soldier of a society who kills a soldier of another society in battle, is different from an individual killing someone in a rage. Also, from 2nd Thessalonians "if any would not work, neither should he eat". That can interpreted differently in individual situations, the difference between laziness and genuine hard times not of a person's makings. But the difference between 1) 'no work / no eat' and 2)Christ's compassion for one's neighbor - I don't think 2 involves a 3rd party (government) redistributing in the name of compassion, while skimming a chunk off the top to enrich themselves.
I'm 67, I'm now the longest-time member of a Missouri-Synod Lutheran Church. Seen several pastors come and go, baptized there as a baby, confirmed as a teenager. I'm often the go-to guy when someone has a question about some part of the church's history. Though there were a few multi year periods that I didn't attend, I've regularly attended there much more than half my life anyway. I'm active there now, building and grounds, offering counter, usher etc. Do I see sin in myself? Oh yes, in many ways. I'm working on it, not to save myself, no one can do that, I'm just trying to show faith and thanks for the salvation I have.
But the reason for my above question is that I'm seeing regret of differing degrees, in polls and news reports. Some are unhappy with Biden, but are still glad to be rid of Trump, while some Biden voters wish they'd voted for Trump. Most all of them were taking for granted what Trump did and didn't do, they were taking for granted stable oil prices, stable inflation, a presidential assertiveness that our enemies didn't like, many other things, versus what we have now. The 22 and 24 elections will be interesting. I think Trump will be there in 24, if his health holds up. As things stand now, would you vote for him?

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Message 423 of 773 (889565)
12-04-2021 10:33 PM
Reply to: Message 421 by jar
12-04-2021 3:10 PM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
Had Rittenhouse been black it's very unlikely he would have lived through the night and not been executed by the police right then and there.
Do you know who Michael Byrd is? Probably not, most Americans don't, that name doesn't make the news. He's the black capital policeman who murdered a white woman, Ashli Babbitt, on January 6th. She was unarmed. There was no trial for him. He's still alive.

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marc9000
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Message 426 of 773 (889568)
12-05-2021 12:07 AM
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12-04-2021 11:05 PM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
An insurrectionist trying to break through barricaded doors isn’t an innocent victim.
Neither are scumbags like George Floyd who physically engage police.
She was part of a violent mob trying to overthrow a legal election.
Joseph Rosenbaum was part of a violent mob trying to burn and loot a city. He tried to grab Rittenhouse's gun. No evidence that Babbitt tried to grab Byrd's gun. There should have been a trial. But black mob members killing white people is not uncommon. Seldom if ever makes the news.

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Message 427 of 773 (889569)
12-05-2021 12:08 AM
Reply to: Message 425 by xongsmith
12-04-2021 11:07 PM


Re: Ashli Babbit
She wasn't murdered. Suicide by cop maybe. Warfare enemy combatant, maybe.
George Floyd wasn't suicide by cop? Double standards?

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marc9000
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Message 440 of 773 (889586)
12-05-2021 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 433 by Percy
12-05-2021 9:16 AM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
Hey, Marc, thank you for what, given your history, could only be an honest, accurate and complete report.
You're welcome, even I'm surprised that little truth bomb caused a full seven posters to fly into a rage in only about 12 hours. I think that's a record even for me.
I've only been coming here lately to read for amusement, though I seldom pay attention to anything jar has to say. But when I see this kind of stupidity;
jar writes:
I am a conservative.
By itself, I was letting it go. But combined with this one, I couldn't resist;
jar writes:
Had Rittenhouse been black it's very unlikely he would have lived through the night and not been executed by the police right then and there.
Why does no one, particularly you, not call him on some of these things? It's no longer 1880, police don't lynch blacks any longer. Words like "conservative" actually mean something - what good is a discussion forum, even a one-sided one, when posters are allowed to falsely use word definitions?
After reading this I guess I can safely assume that Ms. Babbit was obeying the law and not behaving in any unusual or threatening manner when, out of the blue and unprovoked, Michael Byrd inexplicably chose her of all people to fire his weapon at.
She was breaking and entering, breaking the law, no different than countless thousands of rioters were in several different cities all across the U.S. in 2020, and before. It wasn't a private residence or private business where a burgler can very well expect to get shot, it was a public place where a disciplined security force was expected to be.
There was a disciplined security force at the courthouse and police headquarters in Seattle in the summer of 2020. They fled, the rioters took over. In the Capitol, that shouldn't have happened of course, those rioters had to be stopped. Not because they were white, but because the Capitol really is an important place. Babbitt and those other rioters there didn't represent me, or most Republican voters. But no one should have been killed, there are a lot of unanswered questions. If Byrd would have been white, and Babbitt would have been black, do you think there would have been a trial?
Here's a link to the Seattle takeover, you probably missed it, the mainstream media skimmed over it quickly, if they mentioned it at all.
Seattle protesters take over city blocks to create police-free 'autonomous zone' | Seattle | The Guardian
A couple weeks before the insurrection Babbitt sent this heartwarming reply to Kamala Harris who had tweeted about masking up, distributing vaccines, and getting kids back in schools:
NO LINK? Or did a NY Times editor, or maybe Chris Cuomo just make that up? Maybe Don Lemon? "we the ppl, bitch!" Does that sound like white talk to you? Even if it is true, does that kind of speech justify an execution? Are you saying Michael Byrd knew that she said that before he killed her? What was she doing different than everyone else in the room? Why weren't they all mowed down?
This clearly makes Babbitt out to be a calm and rational person who represented no threat as she tried to invade the House chambers by climbing through the smashed security glass of its doors. I bet Babbitt had cupcakes and soft drinks for House members in her backpack.
What she didn't have was a weapon, that's enough for there to be questions, an investigation, a trial. It would have been easy enough to acquit Byrd. He was undoubtedly scared, he was the victim of a lack of support, of sloppy Capitol security. But did his training justify his shooting into a crowd? Maybe shooting into a crowd of white people didn't bother him too much. In reading about him, I see he's very proud, claimed he "saved a lot of lives". He's a hero to many, there seems to always be celebrations when a black kills a white, and pays no price for it. (O.J. Simpson, one example)
It must be a real disappointment for you that you cannot wreak vengeance upon Michael Byrd, but he continues living his idyllic life.
No, I'm like most white people, I shrugged it off. He knew most white people would, that's why he wasn't afraid to release his name after a short time. His name would have stayed unreleased if he'd have demanded it. He had a choice - policeman who shoot black crooks don't have that choice. Sure, he's had a few death threats, but they only come from a tiny minority like the fruitcakes who attacked the Capitol. Not much to it.
I wish police were trained to wound or first fire warning shots, not kill, but as a group they are broadly against such measures because the former risks being less effective and the latter risks potentially causing unintentional injury to innocent people.
Or death, yes. I'm sure her falling to the floor in a pool of blood was quite impressive to others in the room. Maybe there should be a trial / investigation on the lack of security in one of the most important buildings in the U.S. No, guess not.
I recall a case a number of years ago where a teenager engaged in target practice at his home fired a round into the air and it descended into a packed football stadium a mile away and killed a spectator.
Freak accidents happen. Alec Baldwin was only holding the gun, he didn't pull the trigger! It went off all by its own self!!

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marc9000
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Message 441 of 773 (889587)
12-05-2021 5:32 PM
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12-05-2021 12:29 PM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
I see you're still a lying little shit.
Sorry Phat, my fault. I'm the one that charged him up this time.

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Message 442 of 773 (889589)
12-05-2021 5:38 PM
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12-05-2021 3:52 PM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
Yes, it is true that many black fathers are in prison due to racism and unfairness.
The scales are tipped now. We're now in an age of Black Supremacy. Of course there are no memorials to white, dope-head crooks, like there are for George Floyd. Affirmative action, minority contracts in construction, it's been building for a long time.

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Message 452 of 773 (889606)
12-07-2021 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 445 by PaulK
12-06-2021 12:35 AM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
I suppose you mean “truth bomb” to be a bomb that destroys the truth?
It doesn't destroy the truth to point out facts, like Michael Byrd is black, is still alive, not lynched.
And it’s funny how you equate telling the truth with rage.
DrJones writes:
of course a pig fucker like you would support a traitor.
Since I'm hated here, and this guy is on your "side", you don't see that as rage I guess. But I don't have pigs, and never get near farms.
Really? How many of them [black riots]were about violently overturning an election?
I don't know what was in their minds, but breaking into one building hardly can be twisted into an attempt to "overturn an election".
In how many were the lives of the legislators at risk?
In Seattle, the lives of anyone near that courthouse or police station were at risk.
It was a secured area. She was at the head of a violent mob. Unlike George Floyd who was already restrained and alone. How exactly were the security force meant to stop her and the mob without using firearms?
You should ask Percy that one, he doesn't believe police should have guns. Maybe a bigger security force, manpower, tear gas, there are many other ways, especially if few, or none of the mob was armed. If they displayed arms, then yes, shoot them. Babbitt didn't display arms.
What makes you think that there wasn’t an investigation?
The fact that I've never heard of it, combined with the fact that no one here has linked me to the details and results of it.
What makes you think there should have been a trial? There are plenty of police shootings that don’t lead to trials.
And there are plenty that do, especially when the shooter is white and the shootee is black. This was a high profile, unusual case, that got a lot of public attention. A lot of people would have liked answers.
Shooting into a crowd? The way I heard it Babbitt was the first one through - the “crowd” were still the other side of the door.
And you heard it wrong. Everyone was on the other side of the door. She was targeted, he took careful aim at her BEFORE she went through the door. She never made it through the door.
marc9000 writes:
Maybe shooting into a crowd of white people didn't bother him too much. In reading about him, I see he's very proud, claimed he "saved a lot of lives". He's a hero to many, there seems to always be celebrations when a black kills a white, and pays no price for it. (O.J. Simpson, one example)
At least we know for sure that you’re a racist - and probably a White Supremacist.
And at least we know that when you can't address a point, you resort to name calling.

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Message 453 of 773 (889607)
12-07-2021 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 446 by AZPaul3
12-06-2021 9:01 AM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
marc9000 writes:
Of course there are no memorials to white, dope-head crooks, like there are for George Floyd.
How many of them were illegally publicly executed by police?
By black policemen? Who knows, it's seldom reported by the news media!
quote:
Putting together a comprehensive list of black-on-white crime is a difficult task for two, superficially contradictory, reasons: 1) There is so much of it. 2) There is so little reporting on it. I doubt there is a day that goes by in the United States without at least dozens of instances of blacks assaulting, robbing, and/or defacing the property of whites. Yet, if all you’re reading is the New York Times, you might guess that crime of that sort takes place half a dozen times a year at most. But, if you start to dig through local news sources, and discover the code words used to discuss black crime (e.g. “youths”), the ocean of write-ups becomes overwhelming. Indeed, American Renaissance has nearly one thousand news items tagged “Black on White Crime,” while Paul Kersey has well over 3,000 blog posts about the matter.
The Brutal Reality of Black on White Crime - American Renaissance
Executed for what? Passing a fake bill? Murder? Rape? Being ornery? What major crime did Floyd commit that deserved the death penalty?
Why the execution?
The jury decided that case, I never took exception to it. The white policeman is going to pay for it for most of the rest of his life. That's not good enough for you?
Injustices like this deserve the social spotlight. A memorial against this type of government organized crime is more than appropriate.
"Government organized crime" - memorials for black crooks, I've heard it all now.

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Message 457 of 773 (889611)
12-07-2021 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 447 by Percy
12-06-2021 2:39 PM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
Marc, you're back, I should have known, I thought I detected a stench.
Just a few more truth bombs on this Pearl Harbor day, then I might make like some birds and get the flock out of here, as has been suggested to me before.
We'll have to start calling you Sheldon.
I understand, name calling is what the far left tends to do when its position has little logic.
I guess you're the only one here for amusement while everyone else is enraged by your insightful observations. I thought we were only incredulous and appalled,
Incredulous and appalled? Your tiny liberal cocoon is THAT tiny? I think you've said you watch Fox News Sunday sometimes with Chris Wallace. Is that the only time you come out into the real world and see what's actually going on? When Wallace has a conservative guest on, do you immediately turn it off?
but if you say we're in a rage then I guess we are
Please don't guess, READ!
DrJones writes:
of course a pig fucker like you would support a traitor.
jar writes:
As usual you simply lie. That is a defining characteristic of today's so called "Biblical Christians".
marc9000 writes:
Why does no one, particularly you, not call him on some of these things? It's no longer 1880, police don't lynch blacks any longer.
What an incredibly accurate reading of what jar said!! You are just so astute! If you're looking for my reaction to that part of the discussion, just look at my message that appears immediately before yours. I even quoted the exact same words from jar. Gotta hand it to you, your powers of observation are unmatched.
quote:
While jar and I have different opinions, I don't see how anything he said suggests "that most blacks get shot."

You analyzed what Phat said about jar's statement, and then defended jar's statement. (that white police always discriminate)
marc9000 writes:
If Byrd would have been white, and Babbitt would have been black, do you think there would have been a trial?
Wow, flipping the races, what an inspirational coup! Uh, could you explain the logic behind this one?
Yes, I'll bold it for you; it can help expose reverse discrimination, it can help expose a new danger to the well being of the U.S. - BLACK SUPREMACY. Building monuments to honor black crooks.
Ah, Marc, you got me, I made it up. That's just the kind of thing I do all the time, make things up. I'm sure this link is made up, don't bother clicking on it:'She was deep into it': Ashli Babbitt, killed in Capitol riot, was devoted conspiracy theorist. And if you do click on it then especially don't read the third paragraph, because what are the odds it's the very paragraph I quoted? Zero, right? 'Cause I always lie. You know what would be really ironic is if that link took you to the very same news source that you cited yourself, The Guardian. But, naw, what are the odds of that happening?
Conspiracy theorist - yes, deserving of death! Unless you were a Trump/Russian collusion conspiracy theorist, then you were a patriotic American! Even after it was proven a lie by a 2 year investigation. If somebody wanted to trumpet a fake tweet from Babbitt, (big-tech Twitter, the same big tech that banned a sitting Republican president from using its platform) I have no doubt that Jack Dorsey could easily come up with all the proof necessary. But she probably did tweet that, did it deserve death? Trump hating liberals tend to get pretty nasty on Twitter a time or two, wouldn't you say?
On a more serious note, I've stopped providing links for information that most everyone knows already or that at least is so ubiquitous that anyone can find it with a simple Google search.
So forum rule #4 needs to be revised now?
Just so astute, Marc, absolutely remarkable. The possibility of a weapon not being visible, what are the chances of that, right? There could be no weapon in her backpack or a coat pocket or pants pocket. It would have been perfectly safe to let her through the smashed glass and walk among members of the House of Representatives. Of course she would have had to look under chairs to find them.
So now, instead of saying police shouldn't have guns, you're now saying that police should be allowed to shoot only if they SUSPECT a weapon, not if they actually see one?
Seriously again for one paragraph, as you'd know if you'd read my stuff, I am against almost all officers (and everyone else) having guns.
Yes I know, your drastic flip-flops are impossible to keep up with.
Yeah, that's it, you got it, he shot into a crowd, despite what you can see on video. We don't want you to have any doubts that you are absolutely right, so be sure not to view this video, especially at time 1:39: Video Shows Fatal Shooting of Ashli Babbitt at U.S. Capitol (sorry, couldn't embed it)
Yes, I watched it. He took careful aim at HER, a crowd was behind her, she hadn't crossed into the other room. She was in a room with a crowd. Were you hoping I wouldn't watch the video?
Right you are, Marc. That Michael Byrd, just a cold blooded killer.
Very good, even you can sometimes be right when you're trying to be sarcastic.
marc9000 writes:
In reading about him, I see he's very proud, claimed he "saved a lot of lives". He's a hero to many, there seems to always be celebrations when a black kills a white, and pays no price for it. (O.J. Simpson, one example)
Yep, no racism in your family, you got it all.
Very good, another non answer when you don't have one. I get my information from a lot of sources, I apply logic to what is said, and come to the same conclusions that most Republicans do. Here is a partial list of somewhat prominent people, some present, some past, a couple of them now dead. I have the utmost respect for all of them.
Candace Owens
Condoleezza Rice
Alan Keys
Ben Carson
Larry Elder
J.C. Watts
Herman Cain
Clarence Thomas
Armstrong Williams
Thomas Sowell
Star Parker
Walter Williams
Angela McGlowan
Ken Blackwell
Allen West
Winsome Sears
Tim Scott
Leo Terrell
Lawrence Jones
They all have one thing in common, care to take a guess at what it is?
Yeah, exactly, you got that right, Jack. It's no biggie that Michael Byrd's in hiding because of threats from all the far right wing nuts.
In hiding? He's been in hiding since January 6th, and now in December, he still is? If you say so.
Just so discerning, Marc, realizing that a gun discharging all by itself and shooting a bullet into the air that kills someone are both freak accidents. But strangely enough, the guy who fired the round into the air was charged with manslaughter.
Here's another "freak accident" for you. Over a half century ago a woman driving on a New York expressway was hit by a random bullet and died. A detective figured it out. A couple men out in the harbor were taking potshots at debris in the water. One bullet caromed off the water and on toward the expressway. The man was charged with manslaughter for this "freak accident."
Musta been a white guy. Mike Edwards, a celloist for the Electric Light Orchestra back in the 70's, was killed in 2010 while driving his vehicle in England, by an out-of-control roll bale that got away from a farmer. Not sure if the farmer was charged, maybe farmers aren't hated in England like gun owners are in the U.S. Or maybe the farmer was black. Does someone always have to be CHARGED in freak accidents? Only if it involves a gun? And the shooter isn't black?

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