Who's the bigger offender: Conservatives or Liberals?

I do understand, thank you.Bigotry Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com

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noun, plural big·ot·ries.

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stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.

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the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.

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Interesting how Hollywood and the mainstream media sealed the use of that word against only conservatives.How Archie Bunker Changed TV—and America—Forever | Time

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Archie has a gruff, overbearing demeanor, largely defined by his bigotry

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Archie Bunker - WikipediaA bigot who taught us tolerance – Chicago TribuneBut the meathead was never called a bigot.

I'm on the receiving end of that more than I practice it, and you know it. Do you believe him, that I was arguing for the prolonging of slavery? But the jokes on him, I don't even have a sister haha, so there. Well I did screw that up, the main thing I was thinking when I said that was that I would now disengage in this thread with the longer and longer exchanges that you and I often get into. I didn't expect to see some of the more tantalizing messages from a few of the others. But here's exactly what I said;

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I'm now done in this thread, so you and your helpers can have the last word that you crave. I'd like to explore a little more in the "Is Science Atheism" thread, maybe in the climate change thread, then I'll be gone again for 6 months or a year, just maybe checking in every once in a while for amusement.

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Just tying up a few more details here, then I promise I'm done in this thread. But the "Is Science Atheism" thread holds a lot of promise for some new questions that I have, as does the climate change thread, though to a lesser extent.

My views represent more of mainstream America than do yours, and that's a fact.What did you think of the Ronald Reagan presidency? Let me guess, you weren't born yet. My views pretty much mirror his, and he won really big in 1984, though he didn't have the burdens of having to respond to "Black Lives Matter", "defund the police", and "Global Warming", etc. Democrats have invented a lot of new things since 1988.I'll note your answer (maybe), but won't respond.

Finally we have a link, I asked others for links to that claim. Let's look at a description of that / those laws;

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Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt signed a bill Wednesday granting immunity to drivers who unintentionally injure or kill protesters while attempting to flee and which stiffens penalties for demonstrators who block public roadways, according to the Oklahoma State Legislature.

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UNINTENTIONALY??? Is that the reason others wouldn't provide links, is that the reason you didn't show any text from the link? Unintentionally injuring or killing while attempting to flee threatening mobs who are blocking roads? A big part of the reason for these types of laws is to discourage mobs from blocking roads! HELLOOOOOOOOOOO!!Now I'm done in this thread.

One quick question Phat, has your opinion of Trump gone up at all in the past 6 months or so?

I'm sorry my posts don't more clearly convey my Christianity. The reason they don't is because at a forum like this, the atheist leftists often try to portray any Christian as someone who favors the imposition of all, or most, or some Levitical law into mandatory government rules. Practically no Christian conservatives do of course, they favor the traditional liberty and limited government concept that the founders (many of them Judeo-Christians) had. And that includes some basic Judeo Christian principles in how people should live and associate with one another. And it doesn't include a worship of the planet, the climate, or the government.I think a mistake that may atheists and Christians alike make, is to not carefully consider the differences in Biblical teachings in how individuals should act, versus how societies should act as a whole. As an example, a soldier of a society who kills a soldier of another society in battle, is different from an individual killing someone in a rage. Also, from 2nd Thessalonians "if any would not work, neither should he eat". That can interpreted differently in individual situations, the difference between laziness and genuine hard times not of a person's makings. But the difference between 1) 'no work / no eat' and 2)Christ's compassion for one's neighbor - I don't think 2 involves a 3rd party (government) redistributing in the name of compassion, while skimming a chunk off the top to enrich themselves.I'm 67, I'm now the longest-time member of a Missouri-Synod Lutheran Church. Seen several pastors come and go, baptized there as a baby, confirmed as a teenager. I'm often the go-to guy when someone has a question about some part of the church's history. Though there were a few multi year periods that I didn't attend, I've regularly attended there much more than half my life anyway. I'm active there now, building and grounds, offering counter, usher etc. Do I see sin in myself? Oh yes, in many ways. I'm working on it, not to save myself, no one can do that, I'm just trying to show faith and thanks for the salvation I have.But the reason for my above question is that I'm seeing regret of differing degrees, in polls and news reports. Some are unhappy with Biden, but are still glad to be rid of Trump, while some Biden voters wish they'd voted for Trump. Most all of them were taking for granted what Trump did and didn't do, they were taking for granted stable oil prices, stable inflation, a presidential assertiveness that our enemies didn't like, many other things, versus what we have now. The 22 and 24 elections will be interesting. I think Trump will be there in 24, if his health holds up. As things stand now, would you vote for him?

Do you know who Michael Byrd is? Probably not, most Americans don't, that name doesn't make the news. He's the black capital policeman who murdered a white woman, Ashli Babbitt, on January 6th. She was unarmed. There was no trial for him. He's still alive.

Neither are scumbags like George Floyd who physically engage police. Joseph Rosenbaum was part of a violent mob trying to burn and loot a city. He tried to grab Rittenhouse's gun. No evidence that Babbitt tried to grab Byrd's gun. There should have been a trial. But black mob members killing white people is not uncommon. Seldom if ever makes the news.

George Floyd wasn't suicide by cop? Double standards?

You're welcome, even I'm surprised that little truth bomb caused a full seven posters to fly into a rage in only about 12 hours. I think that's a record even for me.I've only been coming here lately to read for amusement, though I seldom pay attention to anything jar has to say. But when I see this kind of stupidity; By itself, I was letting it go. But combined with this one, I couldn't resist; Why does no one, particularly you, not call him on some of these things? It's no longer 1880, police don't lynch blacks any longer. Words like "conservative" actually mean something - what good is a discussion forum, even a one-sided one, when posters are allowed to falsely use word definitions? She was breaking and entering, breaking the law, no different than countless thousands of rioters were in several different cities all across the U.S. in 2020, and before. It wasn't a private residence or private business where a burgler can very well expect to get shot, it was a public place where a disciplined security force was expected to be.There was a disciplined security force at the courthouse and police headquarters in Seattle in the summer of 2020. They fled, the rioters took over. In the Capitol, that shouldn't have happened of course, those rioters had to be stopped. Not because they were white, but because the Capitol really is an important place. Babbitt and those other rioters there didn't represent me, or most Republican voters. But no one should have been killed, there are a lot of unanswered questions. If Byrd would have been white, and Babbitt would have been black, do you think there would have been a trial?Here's a link to the Seattle takeover, you probably missed it, the mainstream media skimmed over it quickly, if they mentioned it at all.Seattle protesters take over city blocks to create police-free 'autonomous zone' | Seattle | The Guardian NO LINK? Or did a NY Times editor, or maybe Chris Cuomo just make that up? Maybe Don Lemon? "we the ppl, bitch!" Does that sound like white talk to you? Even if it is true, does that kind of speech justify an execution? Are you saying Michael Byrd knew that she said that before he killed her? What was she doing different than everyone else in the room? Why weren't they all mowed down? What she didn't have was a weapon, that's enough for there to be questions, an investigation, a trial. It would have been easy enough to acquit Byrd. He was undoubtedly scared, he was the victim of a lack of support, of sloppy Capitol security. But did his training justify his shooting into a crowd? Maybe shooting into a crowd of white people didn't bother him too much. In reading about him, I see he's very proud, claimed he "saved a lot of lives". He's a hero to many, there seems to always be celebrations when a black kills a white, and pays no price for it. (O.J. Simpson, one example) No, I'm like most white people, I shrugged it off. He knew most white people would, that's why he wasn't afraid to release his name after a short time. His name would have stayed unreleased if he'd have demanded it. He had a choice - policeman who shoot black crooks don't have that choice. Sure, he's had a few death threats, but they only come from a tiny minority like the fruitcakes who attacked the Capitol. Not much to it. Or death, yes. I'm sure her falling to the floor in a pool of blood was quite impressive to others in the room. Maybe there should be a trial / investigation on the lack of security in one of the most important buildings in the U.S. No, guess not. Freak accidents happen. Alec Baldwin was only holding the gun, he didn't pull the trigger! It went off all by its own self!!

Sorry Phat, my fault. I'm the one that charged him up this time.

The scales are tipped now. We're now in an age of Black Supremacy. Of course there are no memorials to white, dope-head crooks, like there are for George Floyd. Affirmative action, minority contracts in construction, it's been building for a long time.

It doesn't destroy the truth to point out facts, like Michael Byrd is black, is still alive, not lynched. Since I'm hated here, and this guy is on your "side", you don't see that as rage I guess. But I don't have pigs, and never get near farms. I don't know what was in their minds, but breaking into one building hardly can be twisted into an attempt to "overturn an election". In Seattle, the lives of anyone near that courthouse or police station were at risk. You should ask Percy that one, he doesn't believe police should have guns. Maybe a bigger security force, manpower, tear gas, there are many other ways, especially if few, or none of the mob was armed. If they displayed arms, then yes, shoot them. Babbitt didn't display arms. The fact that I've never heard of it, combined with the fact that no one here has linked me to the details and results of it. And there are plenty that do, especially when the shooter is white and the shootee is black. This was a high profile, unusual case, that got a lot of public attention. A lot of people would have liked answers. And you heard it wrong. Everyone was on the other side of the door. She was targeted, he took careful aim at her BEFORE she went through the door. She never made it through the door. And at least we know that when you can't address a point, you resort to name calling.

By black policemen? Who knows, it's seldom reported by the news media!

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Putting together a comprehensive list of black-on-white crime is a difficult task for two, superficially contradictory, reasons: 1) There is so much of it. 2) There is so little reporting on it. I doubt there is a day that goes by in the United States without at least dozens of instances of blacks assaulting, robbing, and/or defacing the property of whites. Yet, if all you’re reading is the New York Times, you might guess that crime of that sort takes place half a dozen times a year at most. But, if you start to dig through local news sources, and discover the code words used to discuss black crime (e.g. “youths”), the ocean of write-ups becomes overwhelming. Indeed, American Renaissance has nearly one thousand news items tagged “Black on White Crime,” while Paul Kersey has well over 3,000 blog posts about the matter.

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The Brutal Reality of Black on White Crime - American Renaissance The jury decided that case, I never took exception to it. The white policeman is going to pay for it for most of the rest of his life. That's not good enough for you? "Government organized crime" - memorials for black crooks, I've heard it all now.

Just a few more truth bombs on this Pearl Harbor day, then I might make like some birds and get the flock out of here, as has been suggested to me before. I understand, name calling is what the far left tends to do when its position has little logic. Incredulous and appalled? Your tiny liberal cocoon is THAT tiny? I think you've said you watch Fox News Sunday sometimes with Chris Wallace. Is that the only time you come out into the real world and see what's actually going on? When Wallace has a conservative guest on, do you immediately turn it off? Please don't guess, READ!

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While jar and I have different opinions, I don't see how anything he said suggests "that most blacks get shot."

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You analyzed what Phat said about jar's statement, and then defended jar's statement. (that white police always discriminate) Yes, I'll bold it for you; it can help expose reverse discrimination, it can help expose a new danger to the well being of the U.S. - BLACK SUPREMACY. Building monuments to honor black crooks. Conspiracy theorist - yes, deserving of death! Unless you were a Trump/Russian collusion conspiracy theorist, then you were a patriotic American! Even after it was proven a lie by a 2 year investigation. If somebody wanted to trumpet a fake tweet from Babbitt, (big-tech Twitter, the same big tech that banned a sitting Republican president from using its platform) I have no doubt that Jack Dorsey could easily come up with all the proof necessary. But she probably did tweet that, did it deserve death? Trump hating liberals tend to get pretty nasty on Twitter a time or two, wouldn't you say? So forum rule #4 needs to be revised now? So now, instead of saying police shouldn't have guns, you're now saying that police should be allowed to shoot only if they SUSPECT a weapon, not if they actually see one? Yes I know, your drastic flip-flops are impossible to keep up with. Yes, I watched it. He took careful aim at HER, a crowd was behind her, she hadn't crossed into the other room. She was in a room with a crowd. Were you hoping I wouldn't watch the video? Very good, even you can sometimes be right when you're trying to be sarcastic. Very good, another non answer when you don't have one. I get my information from a lot of sources, I apply logic to what is said, and come to the same conclusions that most Republicans do. Here is a partial list of somewhat prominent people, some present, some past, a couple of them now dead. I have the utmost respect for all of them.Candace Owens
Condoleezza Rice
Alan Keys
Ben Carson
Larry Elder
J.C. Watts
Herman Cain
Clarence Thomas
Armstrong Williams
Thomas Sowell
Star Parker
Walter Williams
Angela McGlowan
Ken Blackwell
Allen West
Winsome Sears
Tim Scott
Leo Terrell
Lawrence JonesThey all have one thing in common, care to take a guess at what it is? In hiding? He's been in hiding since January 6th, and now in December, he still is? If you say so. Musta been a white guy. Mike Edwards, a celloist for the Electric Light Orchestra back in the 70's, was killed in 2010 while driving his vehicle in England, by an out-of-control roll bale that got away from a farmer. Not sure if the farmer was charged, maybe farmers aren't hated in England like gun owners are in the U.S. Or maybe the farmer was black. Does someone always have to be CHARGED in freak accidents? Only if it involves a gun? And the shooter isn't black?