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Tangle Member Posts: 8486 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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There is no such thing as organised atheism. Atheism is just a lack of belief in gods. It's not an institution, it has no organisation, no funding, no structure, no nothing. Atheists are just individuals that individually don't believe what you believe. Or anyone else's other god fantasies. It's a lack, it's not a something. You're railing against a a nothing. Atheism has nothing to do with science. Science is full of believers of all shapes and sizes. Just as a matter of numbers, science must be populated overwhelmingly by believers. Most of whom you'll disagree with; for religious reasons. Science was created by creationists ffs. Your enemy is reality not science. It is what it is.
Can't help you with that, it makes no sense to me. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Tangle Member Posts: 8486 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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Well that was 100% predictable. There's a club for trainspotters too. People have hobbies. Do you think that is in anyway comparable to any religious organisation - even the smallest, daftest Christian cult? I'm an atheist. About 40% of UK people are non-religious. We have no meeting places, no spires, chants, statues, buildings, offerings, collections, smoke and bells, no policies or catechisms, no actual contact with any other atheists except randomly in the pub in a non-collective act of drinking beer. Non-religion is NOT an organisation, it's just a non-belief. A very few of us are weird enough to populate boards like this to laugh at you crazies. We occasionally join a campaign to prevent a religiously motivated political intervention that affects us like gay marriage, contraception, abortions, euthanasia, genital mutilation, forced weddings and so on. But mostly our non-belief is irrelevant to us. So no, we are not organised, we're just people. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Tangle Member Posts: 8486 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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After an extensive search of the USA you found six organisations interested in secularism. Well done.
In my very small, rural village in the UK there are three churches, a religious school and a nunnery. Within 20 miles there will be 100 or so similar. There are 43,000 churches in the UK. Plus mosques, religious schools and seminaries. Christianity is an institution imbedded in our Parliament and funded through tax concessions as charities. There is nothing even resembling that for the non-religious, there's almost nothing at all except a couple of self-funding interest groups despite 43% of the population being non-religious. There is no comparison at all. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Tangle Member Posts: 8486 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
“According to the National Congregational Study Survey, there are an estimated 380,000 churches in the U.S.”
UK population 68m, 43,000 churches = 1 church:1,581 people Over building churches seems to be a pretty common trait. I wonder where the nearest structure for the worship of atheism is? Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Tangle Member Posts: 8486 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
There's no argument, atheism is not a religion - by definition.
You're confusing humanism with democracy. I thought that even you supported democracy?
What's that got to do with atheism?
Oh you bet. the RC church is one of the wealthiest organisations on the planet. They all want your money. Ironic really.
The words of Jesus are plain. You ignore them because you're not a believer.
Wow. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Tangle Member Posts: 8486 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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That's certainly what believers seem to need to think. They think that because they can't imagine what a non-belief is. Which is odd because, with the exception of the one god they believe in, they have non-beliefs in all other gods and a zillion other things too. Leprechauns being only one them; usually. You'd think they'd be able to get it, but they just can't. Atheists are not a collective with a creed, we're just people that are occasionally reminded that there are mad people around us that believe in weird crap. This does NOT mean we have a faith in non-belief. We just don't think about it. It's a non-thing, an absence, a nothing. You believers have imposed a name on something that we non-believers would not have a name for had you not made up your belief. Believe what you like, but don't tell me that I have a belief in not believing what you believe. That's self-serving garbage and pig ignorance. You guys won't accept the testimony of atheists about what it is not to belief in what you believe in. You have to believe in belief so you think we do to. Well no we don't. If you care at all about understanding atheism, just accept what we say about it. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Tangle Member Posts: 8486 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
Fine, be puzzled about it, just don't say dumb thing like atheism is a faith or a believe. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Tangle Member Posts: 8486 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
ffs Phat. Atheism is nothing! There's no observation or anything. It's just not a thing at all. It's a label you guys have given us for not believing what you believe.
Utter crap. Year after year you say this kind of nonsense. Atheists have no feeling? I feel like punching you in the mouth does that prove it to you?
Totally deluded, that's how much. But I don't care, just stop telling me what I feel or believe because you haven't the first clue. Edited by Tangle, : No reason given. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Tangle Member Posts: 8486 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
Clearly your jury has called it non-literal. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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