The brand new April 2021 poll is about ALL immigrants.
(-You attacked me for conflating immigrants with different immigration status, and you add specifically said this poll is about American views of legal immigrants. You deny your stupid obsession, now?)
Americans rarely worry about whether an immigrant is legal or illegal.
You said the 2021 poll gives you no reason to assume that "immigrants" also includes illegal immigrants.
I would urge you to look closer. Those polled were asked questions that should clue you in. Read the questions carefully.
You keep on bringing up dishonest irrelevancies to clutter and confuse the point.
(You started participating in the thread, by simply quoting Percy's dishonest evasions of my evidence, in The Trump Presidency Thread. I quoted Hillary Clinton telling Christiane Amanpour, in 2014, that she would d er port the children held in custody. But Percy continued to lie)
(You lied by claiming I was attacking Hillary Clinton's new political position AGAINST DEPORTATION, in the 2016 Univision debate. I was not against her ultimate position against deportation, but Ramos had to beat it out of her. You said I was using her campaign position to smear Democrats as "amnesty" supporters. Percy did not lie to the level you did)
(And I support amnesty but said the Democratic party was a deportation party)
This last discussion has do with you saying that I I conflated illegal and illegal immigration. You say that I put all under the term "immigrant", and you linked to the 2021 poll, and said you saw nothing in the text that should cause us to consider the term "immigration", in the questions, to invlude illegal immigration.
So where is your effort to back up your claim that I opposed benefits for immigrants?
You took my analysis of public opinion ( with immigrants the decisive supporters, with an otherwise divided public) on a hypothetical & theoretical trade off scenario, and called me racist for a factual report.
(The 58 to 41 public support for the hypothetical trade off was largely due to 67% immigrant support. Immigrants are 14% of the population)
I was factually pointing out that Democrats never seem to budge above 47% support for increasing immigration levels, despite any hypothetical policy trade off.
(And the trade off was a secondary issue, related to a fictional landmark immigration level increase, unlike the issue of support for benefits in a status quo situation)
I was pointing out the fundamental political problem with increasing immigration.
Your accusation of me is massively wrong, on every level.
As for my comment about your support for walls, I will provide the quotes after work. Paulk only covered about 5% of what you said, despite his claims that he provided the context. He missed an entire paragraph in the first linked post, in the Trump Presidency Thread.
Re: It ain't what it says it's what readers THINK it says.
Give an example.
Dont imitate Percy, AzPaul, and PaulK.
Percy and AzPaul flat out refuse to back up accusations.
PaulK started(post 31) by ignoring Percy's pro wall sentences in one post, and he selectively quoted 10% of the words in another post.
He then said that I called the Democratic party an amnesty party.
Then he claims I somehow am calling immigrants offensive names.
HIS bizarre "evidence" is built around 2 lame, dubious pieces of logic:
First is that I simply said "immigrants are deported" instead of "illegal immigrants are deported", so therefore I consider all immigrants to be "illegal".
Yup. That is the extent of his first piece of evidence.
Second piece of PaulK's evidence was my argument with him that poll questions about immigration will always include ALL immigrants, unless otherwise stated. By telling him that Americans understand "immigration" to include ALL immigrants, including illegal immigrants, then I am saying all immigrants are illegal immigrants.
(This site is getting to be a joke. First graders have better arguments!)
Give me your evidence Jar (I almost want to start putting the E word on quotes, around here)