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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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This trend in astronomy is just a minor corollary in what has now become known round the world as the Percy Postulate: eventually all jobs will be programming jobs. Even my coffee cup is programmable and has an app now:
--Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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dwise1 writes: So you can drink your coffee only if you have a compatible phone? Eg, if you have an iPhone and an Android coffee cup then your phone will refuse to talk to your coffee cup? Naw, everything's compatible, it's no problem, or at least it wasn't until the coffee cup got snippy after I used it for ramen noodles. Fortunately there are manual overrides, but they're in the Matrix guarded by my toaster which hasn't let me pass since I tried to use it to warm up a fried egg. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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LamarkNewAge writes: What is the observational evidence that Dark Energy is constantly creating space between you and me? This has been explained previously, but once again, the term dark energy arose as a placeholder label for the cause of the accelerating expansion of the universe, which was discovered through observational evidence. Other than the observational evidence of its effects, nothing is known of dark energy. It might be a constant energy pervading all space, or it might vary across time and space, or it might be something else. We don't know at this time. The specific observational evidence and subsequent analysis demonstrating the likelihood of an accelerating expansion of the universe originally came from two studies, the High-Z Supernova Search Team and the Supernova Cosmology Project.
I found, and then, lost a site that has scientists challenging that assumption. There are no assumptions. What are you referring to?* You will have no trouble finding sites on the Internet challenging absolutely anything. Don't believe in a spherical Earth, just go here: The Flat Earth Society. Don't believe in the moon landings, just go here: Astronauts Gone Wild. Don't believe airplanes brought down the World Trade Center, just go here: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories. Don't believe Lee Harvey Oswald short JFK, just go here: John F. Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy Theories. And last but not least, if you don't believe in dark energy, just go here: It’s Over: Dark Energy Was Fake Science – CEH --Percy ABE: *After seeing AZPaul3's Message 42 I realized that LamarkNewAge might be referring to the assumption that the accelerating expansion we observe at great distances is also taking place locally. Edited by Percy, : AbE.
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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AZPaul3 writes: Not to conflict with Percy, above, but the cosmological principle is an assumption. Calling the cosmological principle (the idea that on large scales the universe has the same properties for all observers) purely assumptive might be an example of an overabundance of scientific caution because we have more than zero evidence. When we compare our local large scale region with remote large scale regions, they appear approximately the same. This means these other large scale regions that we observe are also approximately the same as each other. It's also consistent with what we observe on small scales, meaning that the physical laws we observe being followed locally are also being followed in all space that we observe. The structure of the universe on large scales is a reflection of all matter and energy following the same laws on tiny scales. For example, if the cosmological constant were different in the direction of Draco, that fact would stand out starkly when compared to observations made in the direction of Crux. Science couldn't make progress if we insisted on hyperskepticality and held that, for example, just because the triple point of water is 0.01°C on one side of room, we can't assume that it will still be 0.01°C on the other side of the room. Also, what would be the quality of our thinking if we abandoned generalization, concluding that because the triple point of water is 0.01°C everywhere we've measured it that therefore the triple point of water is 0.01°C everywhere. There's no denying the satisfaction of proving something true, but that kind of certainty is denied science. The best we can do is increase our confidence, but enough observations can make us very confident. So sure, on a didactic level the cosmological principle may be an assumption, but it's a damn good one, and one that if it is false it is only, at least by current measurements, in very subtle ways that we haven't yet found. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Grammar.
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
Replied in error.
Edited by Percy, : No reason given.
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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For some people more information leads to more questions, for others more confusion.
LamarkNewAge writes: Where are Draco and Crux located? For this context they are directions looking outward from Earth, not places.
You said we observe Dark Energy effects there? No, I didn't say that.
Try and keep the response limited to my specific question. Sure thing.
(You already let Paul of Arizona confuse your interpretation of this entire discussion, so don't make your own slight of hand waves) Yeah, that's it, everyone's playing bait and switch with you, your comprehension is perfect.
Just to avoid POTENTIAL slight of hand opportunities, I was able to find some work downtime to clarify that I know Percy was talking about observations in the space toward and around the stars in Crux, as well as Draco. Again, in this context, the stars of these constellations are used to indicate direction, not location. The particular locations of the stars that make up Crux and Draco are of no consequence. I chose these constellations simply because they are in approximately opposite directions so I could refer to regions of space as far from one another as possible.
Respond to all angles of the question, with integrity. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean everyone's not out to get you.
Crux is totally in the Milky Way, I think, so I am just wondering what directions, near Crux, show Dark Energy. I have no great preconceptions about the (coming) demonstration mind you. The focus of my post was the cosmological principle, not dark energy.
I just noticed something. Did you really mean to say "cosmological constant" in the direction of Crux? Yes, but I just chose something fundamental at random. A better choice might have been Planck's constant.
That paragraph was about the physical laws being the same everywhere we look in all directions. If the cosmological constant were different out in the direction of Draco (way beyond our galaxy and all the stars making up Draco) then we'd observe different physical laws out that way. I don't know enough about the cosmological constant to be sure that a different value would result in different physical laws, which is why Planck's constant might have been a better choice, since I'm pretty sure if it had a different value then our physical laws would also be different.
You might have meant Cosmological PRINCIPLE? No.
Answer my previous question, in any case. Aye aye, sir. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
LamarkNewAge writes: I would urge posters here to avoid dishonest behavior,... I would urge posters here to avoid implying dishonest behavior. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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The June, 2021, issue of Scientific American contained an article about protecting the Earth from asteroids and comets: https://www.scientificamerican.com/...t-earth-from-asteroids A central focus was the loss of the Arecibo radio telescope, our best detector of asteroids and comets this past December. The current goal is to find 90% of objects larger than 140 meters. A 20-meter asteroid exploded above Chelyabinsk Oblast in Russia in 2013, causing damage to buildings and many injuries due to broken glass and falling objects. There were no deaths.
The article mentions a number of methods for defense against asteroids or comets whose orbit will intersect ours at some future point, deflection receiving the most attention. Some of these you already mentioned:
These solutions have a common problem: they require years of lead time. This article doesn't mention the PI possibility of Lubin and Cohen, but here's a link to the Lubin/Cohen article that appeared in Scientific American a week ago: Planetary Defense Is Good--but Is Planetary Offense Better? - Scientific American It claims the lead time for launch need only be hours for a small asteroid/comet and days for a larger one. The resulting "house-sized pieces" seem approximately the size of the Chelyabinsk meteor that caused so much damage and injury (though percentage-wise the damage and injury was very minor since it's a large population center of over a million), but that's still a much better outcome than the 50 meter asteroid that hit Tunguska back in 1908 which would likely have been catastrophic for the modern Chelyabinsk and killed at least thousands. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
I do like the deflection approaches best because they leave the meteor/comet intact. Any breakup approach that leaves behind 50 meter fragments instead of 20 meter fragments ("Sorry to report that there was an undetected vein of weaker material running through the asteroid that caused breakup along different planes than originally planned.") that remain on the same course means we could get multiple catastrophic hits.
--Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
We also need to watch out for false prophets who claim that God and Jesus are real and that life can only be properly lived by obedience to a book.
--Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
Neat! The first thing I did was cover up the arrows, which as the article later points out makes no difference. The brain is not following cues from the arrows. I then started covering up the circles themselves a little at a time - the illusion persists even when much of the circles aren't visible. For me the illusion disappeared in the circle on the left when around 50% was covered up, while the illusion persisted in the circle on the right even after most of it was covered. The illusion does not require two circles - covering one of them up completely does not diminish the illusion in the remaining circle.
--Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
Tanypteryx writes: Any guesses what they will shoot first? I suppose the medium-sized infrared dot is out of the question since we're on the other side of the sunshade. A question occurs to me: Obviously the sunshade doesn't interfere with communications, but did communications influence decisions about the sunshade? --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
No, you got it. I was wondering about the sunshade's effects on electromagnetic radiation (radio waves), things like the material used, reflectivity, absorption, density, did it have to be placed at an angle, is it flat or does it have a very specific topography, did its presence affect choice of communication frequencies, etc.
--Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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I wonder if the James Webb Space Telescope deserves its own topic. It was often mentioned in this thread. Here's a recent image of the Pillars of Creation:
Wow! --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 23058 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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Theodoric writes: Dredge writes: For starters, no one can count to 24,000. If you want to be taken seriously you need to actually try. He might also want to try not being so error prone. From Highest number counted out loud | Guinness World Records:
quote: --Percy
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