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LamarkNewAge
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Message 2 of 39 (888877)
10-17-2021 8:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by AnswersInGenitals
10-17-2021 5:20 PM


The Senate has never removed any President from office.
So scratch that one.
Voters are a pain in the butt, though.
(And I say that as a non-partisan progressive)

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Message 3 of 39 (888878)
10-17-2021 8:09 PM
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10-17-2021 5:20 PM


Correction.
I say that as a general human critter...
...who resides on planet earth.

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Message 6 of 39 (888907)
10-22-2021 12:45 PM
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10-17-2021 5:20 PM


Do you have a specific reason for supporting term limits? (Is option 5 "hellish"?
I thought others would ask you about this, but it appears they did not.
I will just add that a congressional move to overturn the constitution will require 3/4 of states (38 of them) to ratify the joint congressional decision.
A congressional overturning of the constitution requires no Executive branch input, at all - infact the sitting President is totally irrelevant. But it does require a 2/3 supermajority in BOTH the upper and lower legislative chambers to kick off.
(As if that is not hard enough)
Then the hard part starts.
It takes the states "ratification" process.
There is a general formula for that, today. In the past, states have had radically different ways to get the "business" passed. Legislative chambers are very democratically elected today. So the process ...

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Message 10 of 39 (888915)
10-22-2021 7:20 PM
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10-22-2021 3:49 PM


Re: Do you have a specific reason for supporting term limits? (Is option 5 "hellish"?
I hope this question is about term limits.

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Message 13 of 39 (888922)
10-24-2021 2:41 AM
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10-23-2021 5:47 PM


Re: Do you have a specific reason for supporting term limits? (Is option 5 "hellish"?
Perhaps you can tell me just how powerful the Know Nothing party was in the 1856 election, and just what was the problem with German immigrants.
How did it relate to your Whig party, anyway?

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Message 16 of 39 (888925)
10-24-2021 11:22 AM


I just traced term limits to the Kentucky constitution convention of 1849/50
The Whigs strongly opposed ter limits.
The Democrats pushed for the successful 1850 amendment which imposed term limits on all state office holders, including judges. And judges were forced to win elections, in the convention's decision.
Democrats got an amendment which eliminated 3 day voting, and made election day just one voting day.
(The reason was that those "wealthy Whigs" brought supporters to the polls on the second and 3rd day)
The fight over the very calling of the convention in Kentucky was seen as an existential threat to the Whig party. Democrats got the convention and it set up the historic 1851 Kentucky election. The Whigs lost. The Democrats won.
The Whigs fell apart. There went the pro Union party (as the Democrats accused them of being).
Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.

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LamarkNewAge
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Message 25 of 39 (888963)
10-25-2021 10:34 PM
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10-25-2021 2:56 PM


Re: Weighing The Alternatives
Shop lifting security must cost $100 billion per year.
Shop lifters would ruin every store if not for security.
I once spent $100 , but accidentally took $6 in paper plates outside. I walked back in to pay. I know Walmart only makes about $2 for a $100 customer. They dont need to loose money on a a slime ball.
If someone lets me inside their store, they should not be burnt over the allowance.
Shoplifters hurt the image of poor people more than just about anything else.
I have been preaching that for years.
I go into Walmart and the Arab exit checkers (the majority in Lincoln, though it is probablyjust here)loudly say, "Sir, you can go", without checking my receipt and goods. They know I am honest. (The non-Arab white ladies do not trust me, though, but they are not at the checking area, typically. Their attitude tends to stink, with many exceptions.).
(I just got complemented at a grocery store for returned items that I did not pay for. An employee remembered me from months ago)
Arab employees seem to have a good attitude toward people. They will set your phone plan up on your phone while the old white miserable creatures will shout buyers out of sight. I dont complain EVER, but I thought about requesting that the Whites be banned from electronic department.
Am I wrong?

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LamarkNewAge
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Message 28 of 39 (889053)
10-31-2021 4:30 PM


I just noticed something "hellish" (and constitutes a constitutional crisis)
I was trying to find, via google, an old Newsweek article, from September 20, 2001. It had to do with the "particularly urgent" warning that the Joint Chiefs of Staff got a day before the September 11, 2001 attacks. They cancelled their flight to New York on September 11. Hugh Shelton included.
I could not find anything.
I attempted about 50 different search terms.
(I remember the article said "Such a nice young man" about Muhammad Atta bringing coffee to his boss. The text then pointed out that Osama bin Laden was his boss)
Nothing came close!
So I attempted something that I have not tried in over a decade. I tried to get to Alex Jones's sites Info Wars and Prison Planet. He used to have entire article texts.
I could not find that site either. Or any Jones' site.
So I started searching for censorship key words.
I found a Nov 30 2010 article which pointed out:
That, in 2010, search engines were beginning to block Alex Jones' material from the engines. You Tube banned Alex Jones due to his uploading the Collateral Murder Wikileaks video, which showed 18 minutes of footage which recorded U.S. Apache helicopters shooting at Iraqi journalists.
I think our constitution is already just a paper tiger. If it ever was a document about freedom from tyranny, then we have lost the right it once held (if the words ever meant anything). I suspect that the constitution always suffered from endless exclusions and exceptions, that rendered the text moot.
(I did just find the article, from Sept 23, 2001, but my comments still stand about the rest)
(Bush: "We're at war" is findable online, and it provides the precious research line, about the Sept 10 warning with cancelled flights on 9/11 that passed the fact checkers. A 2004 Chris Matthew's interview, of 9/11 widows, showed their anger at the 9/11 Commission for not addressing the flight warnings)
I must edit to add that the censors have won the war over freedom of information and freedom for science & knowledge.
We have lost; we all have lost
Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.

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LamarkNewAge
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Message 30 of 39 (889055)
10-31-2021 6:36 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by AZPaul3
10-31-2021 5:50 PM


Re: I just noticed something "hellish" (and constitutes a constitutional crisis)
So you have no problem with U.S. milirary shooting at Iraqi civilian journalists?
You just have a problem with video of the massacre leaking?
And, if it miraculously leaks, then plug the leak, by banning freedom to distribute?
(Kill journalists by the killing of free speech, if guns don't work, right?)
Shoot every time, in every way possible, right?
Take notice, world. These United States are a dangerous collective of dangerous people. You have all the ingredients for a dark age. A dark, dangerous age is fighting out of its nascent shell.

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LamarkNewAge
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Message 33 of 39 (889065)
11-01-2021 3:45 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by PaulK
11-01-2021 1:00 AM


Re: I just noticed something "hellish" (and constitutes a constitutional crisis)
Search Engines refusing to allow (non virus, non pornographic) sites to come up in searches could be seen as a free speech issue. Operating systems come bundled with browsers and search engines. I think that a censorship policy should be an antitrust issue, and the OS should be required to have a toolbar from a non censored search engine.
Newsweek is no longer in libraries. I forgot that I wanted (many years ago) to photo copy the September (forget print date for "Bush:"we're at war"), 2001 issue due to the caption text (in bold and larger print) havingva different line than the text in the body of the report.
The print text said "particularly urgent warning", while online version (I edited to say it still is online, as I found it) only has the text sentence ("suddenly" is in there) on the cancelled 9/11 flights, from the 9/10 warning.
At any rate, we are always going to be in the dark when it comes to learning about various things that go on.
(We could use a FOIA constitutional amendment for one thing, so we can find out how the heck certain people get warnings that the rest of us dont get)
We need a constitutional amendment that enables the people to have a right to have knowledge. A right to know. News articles vanishing present an existential threat to humanity, in my opinion.
I see lots of existential threat issues here.
Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.

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LamarkNewAge
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Message 34 of 39 (889066)
11-01-2021 3:51 AM
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11-01-2021 3:45 AM


Re: I just noticed something "hellish" (and constitutes a constitutional crisis)
Does anybody know anybody who has all print issues of Newsweek from September, 2001?
I want a photocopy of the caption line that describes the cancelled military leader's flights as coming from a "particularly urgent" warning on 9/10.
Libraries have ditched their print Newsweek back issues. Since they get no new print issues anymore. Newswerk went online.

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Message 37 of 39 (889072)
11-01-2021 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by PaulK
11-01-2021 4:51 AM


Re: I just noticed something "hellish" (and constitutes a constitutional crisis)
I will just say that I never heard of the ",Dark Web" until the last year or so.
It seems that alot of sites are getting erased from existence.
I was glad to hear that the illicit porn sites have been driven there, but it seems that 98% of Dark Web sites tend to be political in nature (albeit many have had posters that advocated for violence, at one time or another).
The other issue:
The censorship, on social media platforms, seems collusive - and to a fairly large extent. So, an antitrust context it is within.

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