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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
Ideologies are categorizations of similar-like thoughts. They are meant to describe bodies of common thought. They are not (supposed to be) unthinking emotional knee-jerk labels used in place of contemplative guided thought.
Categorizations are what humans seem to do to excess which gives much fodder to the denizens of philosophy departments everywhere. What philosophers have done with ideologies is staggering. We can now quantify the nuances of human thought and distill them down to rote tweetable descriptions, none with which any great number of the pointy-heads can actually together agree. Now all this ideological philosophising is loose in the hate-filled paranoia of an online, realtime, social-media world. And the result, as expected, is the blurring of the lines, misunderstanding, deliberate subterfuge, gnashing of teeth, threats of violence and the fragmenting of society. Heartwarming in an odd way. This gives us more data points in the evidence of the uselessness of philosophers.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
The problem arises when an ideology is used as a reference for answers to all questions. It's like using the Bible to answer all questions. A lot of the answers aren't there. Ideologies are categorizations of similar-like thoughts."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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Phat Member Posts: 18651 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
We also need to watch out for false prophets who claim that God and Jesus are human-created characters in a book and that one can be a good Christian simply by being an empathetic humanist.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Tangle Member Posts: 9581 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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Phat writes: We also need to watch out for false prophets All prophets are false. And that includes those who tell you that gold is a great investment.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Percy Member Posts: 22953 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
We also need to watch out for false prophets who claim that God and Jesus are real and that life can only be properly lived by obedience to a book.
--Percy
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
Phat, you're doing it again. You are mixing crazy with ... well, more crazy.
That God and Jesus are human-created characters in a book and that one can be a good Christian simply by being an empathetic humanist are both demonstrable facts. This negates their characterization as coming from false prophets. The book is indeed a fiction as are its characters. That is known reality from copious evidence. As for empathetic humanist, well, that's the role Jesus played in the book in between scenes of incredible woo-woo majik, so empathetic humanist seems to be the way christians were originally meant to be. Didn't work. Christians turned out to be quite the opposite. Too bad it didn't work. You can tell real false prophets when they quote bible verses and such.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Phat writes: We also need to watch out for false prophets who claim that God and Jesus are human-created characters in a book and that one can be a good Christian simply by being an empathetic humanist. Jesus was an empathetic humanist. It was Luke and Mark and Matthew and John that were the Primal Apologists marketing what they created. Since them it has all been nothing but carny barkers. You and most of modern Christianity are simply pathetic GOATS.My Website: My Website
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7
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Serious science education here.
Most know of the Standard Model and, frankly, most don't care. It works and so here we are. This is a layman's deep dive into all the different particles, forces, interactions. Did I mention laymen? Skittish of the math but really yearn to know? Wanna get deep without suffocating in your limitations? IMHO, this beautifully designed presentation solves these. Even those who know could come away with an enhanced view of the power of the model because of the groupings by various interactions these graphics show. New ways to look at the mess that is our best model of reality. Yeah, I know a lot of us know this stuff in detail already but this presentation, imho, gives satisfaction to the need for depth without hitting the wall. It may be helpful.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2497 Joined: |
I just love how you are so smart that you refuse to read books with annotations.
(Leave those notes for the "ignorant") God, he's awesome
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2497 Joined: |
Now I am not allowed to type an adjective with an -ant- suffix (tacked onto ignore)?
Wtf! This site is just too brilliant. Great shining lights, indeed. (All 5 of the majority, of 9 total posters left, will tell you themselves.) (Lol) Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
... of 9 total posters left ... As long as Percy keeps the sandbox open we're going to come and play. You seem to have joined us. Remember, as with most things internet, stay and play as long as you're having fun. It's good to have a squeaky toy in the forum. This is fun. Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2497 Joined: |
Some of my squeaks are bleeped out.
(I wonder if there are codes I can crack to get my squeaks back).
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nwr Member Posts: 6484 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 8.7 |
Some of my squeaks are bleeped out.
We can still read them, if we click "peek". And most evcforum participants know that.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
I wonder if there are codes I can crack to get my squeaks back Well, that's Percy-territory. Way above my paygrade. But, you might ask him for his reasons. He really is a soft and cuddly sort and always has good reasons. Maybe not always to my liking but we can disagree. So can you. Maybe try, again. Could help get the rest of your voice back.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Admin Director Posts: 13108 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
The words "racist", "idiot" and "ignorant" are on your disallowed words list. It must have happened a very long time ago, I can't track down the offending posts. I've cleared your list.
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