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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
Then you shouldn't need to ask us, "how did this happen?" I've spent plenty of years in school and that's what was taught at that time."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
You claimed you learned it in school. Why not?"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
That's what science is all about - drawing the best conclusions from what we know so far. They are "conclusions" in that what we have observed so far agrees with them."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
How many priests or pastors have to be thieves or child molesters before YOU begin to wonder about their "communion" with God?
First of all its a lie that the implication that all ir most priests or pastors are harmful. Phat writes:
On the contrary, you have reached the conclusion yourself that Zeus is a myth. Many of us reject your God for the same reasons that you reject Zeus. That seems pretty darn close to conclusive.
Second of all it is far from conclusive that God is a myth... Phat writes:
Well, YOU guys are the ones who advocate censoring every other religion but your own. Do you advocate Muslim prayers in school? Do you invite Zoroastrians to preach in your church? Third of all censoring freedom of ideas is manipulative and authoritarian!"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Exactly. Which is why it's foolish to put all your eggs in one basket.
We may have chosen incorrectly. Only after we all die may we ever know. Phat writes:
All of the other choices believe that too.
The difference between our certainty that our God is real vs all of the other choices is that we believe that truth is not relative nor are all God choices dynamically equivalent. Phat writes:
But of course it is relative. You own "truth" is as relative as any. Any "truth" that is not based on evidence must be relative.
... we believe that truth is not relative... Phat writes:
Your choice is less probable than many others.
... nor are all God choices dynamically equivalent. Phat writes:
And you're wrong. See above. You might as well reject the idea that the world is round.
The idea that truth is relative we reject. Phat writes:
And you have no reason for that rejection.
The idea that Zeus or Odin is as likely as Jesus we also reject. Phat writes:
It certainly does not suffice. You're blatantly rejecting what the Son of your own God said. I need not explain why on earth God might choose me but suffice it to say its not my good works thatvcount."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
That would be you. well we do have an antichrist. In my mind anti means opposite rathar than "no". It can also mean contrary to the anointing or contrary to the anointed One."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
EWolf writes:
I believe in "no God". I practice "no religion". I go to "no church" every Sunday. I put "no money" in "no plate". Even the person that claims to have no religion lives by his religion of "no religion." It's a pretty easy religion to live by. I could do it in my sleep."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
EWolf writes:
He was responsible for killing almost everybody on the earth with a flood. Do you think there were no unborn individuals (or even newborn individuals) who had not yet committed their first sin? As for the killing of the innocent, was God responsible for destroying the 62 plus million lives of unborn individuals before they could commit their first sin?"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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EWolf writes:
Murder means "unlawful homicide" - so the questions is, "Whose law?" God may not be a murderer by His own law, but since when does that count for anything? Is God murderous when He judges societies including its children.... The killing of thousands of children by the Flood is certainly wrong under any human standard of morality.
EWolf writes:
We don't debate links here. Present the argument in your own words. ... here are two helpful sights that should give insight."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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