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xongsmith Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: |
excellent, dwise!
"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." - xongsmith, 5.7d
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Percy Member Posts: 22953 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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Another positive of food stamps is that improved nutrition leads to improved health, so food stamp recipients are better able to work and provide for their families. Poverty and poor health often go together because the cheapest foods provide a great deal of calories but not much in the way of nutrition.
We all, liberals, conservatives and the entire spectrum in between, want our nation to be strong and prosperous, which requires that the individuals making up our nation also be strong and prosperous. Wishing some portion of our citizens ill only makes the nation as a whole weaker. --Percy
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 852 days) Posts: 826 Joined:
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On the other hand there's the James Carville philosophy that the only thing in the middle of the road is yellow lines and dead armadillos.
There's something to that: thinking that there's some sort of ideal "third way" somehow splitting the difference between opposing ideas often runs into gridlock (or worse). Imagine Abraham Lincoln "compromising" with Jefferson Davis, or Lyndon Johnson "compromising" with Ho Chi Minh or Ronald Reagan "compromising" with Mikhail Gorbachev or Joe Biden "compromising" with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
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ringo Member (Idle past 668 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
If the armadillos stayed on the yellow line, they'd still be alive. On the other hand there's the James Carville philosophy that the only thing in the middle of the road is yellow lines and dead armadillos."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
Too often, there is the right way and the compromise way. Wisdom is knowing which is which.
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
If we had been honest and abided by the free elections held in Vietnam and cooperated with Ho tens of thousands of lives would have been saved, Vietnam would have prospered and become the major trading partner it is today decades earlier.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
This is one of the occurrences I was referring to. In this case, and not just in hindsight, the honest position would have been so much better.
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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The big takeaway is that had we cooperated with Castro back in the late 50s and Ho around the same time the benefits in terms of lives saved and suffering averted would have been even greater.
And imagine what it would have been like if we as defenders of democracy had accepted the results of the free elections in Iran instead of putting a puppet Shah in place or accepted the free elections in Nicaragua or Brazil or ... Edited by jar, : hit wrong keyMy Website: My Website
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
Are you trying to say we are rather poor (or some other epithet) in our national decision making?
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: |
AZPaul speculates:
Are you trying to say we are rather poor (or some other epithet) in our national decision making? oh yes, We are."I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." - xongsmith, 5.7d
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PaulK Member Posts: 17919 Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
Leaving Mossadegh in power would have been a good idea, too.
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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If we had diverted only a small percentage of what we spent in utterly stupid wars since WWII (including the stupid War on Drugs and War on Terror) into productive foreign aid; roads, health care, infrastructure; we and the whole world would have benefited.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 852 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
That's the misconception from the movie The Program that got some real people killed Not Like the Movie: A Dare Leads to Death - The New York Times
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 852 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
True
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ringo Member (Idle past 668 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Sarah Bellum writes:
There are several movies called "The Program". You'll have to be more specific. That's the misconception from the movie The Program that got some real people killed And your link "Not Like the Movie: A Dare Leads to Death (Published 1993)" won't let me in. Would it kill you to put some effort into your posts?"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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