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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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AZPaul3 writes:
In Canada, we sent them to residential schools to try to turn them white. Didn't work. Phat writes:
That's not easy to do with brown eggs. Tommy is so dull he dyes all his Easter Eggs white!"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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Michael MD Member (Idle past 543 days) Posts: 108 Joined: |
In my ether model, elemental ether units vibrate and contact each other without moving inertially. The ether is everywhere, although not continuously contiguous, it constitutes a universal underlying matrix, which underlies quantum units. Compared to ether dynamics, quantum dynamics operate differently, via waves, fields, spin, and so on, along spatial vectors. However, a quantum transmission through space is continuously interacting with the primary forces of the underlying ether matrix, because quantum units are constantly "feeling" the ether, inasmuch as all quantum units were originally formed from "building block" ether units, and thus still retain the ability to interact with the ether through vibration.
My kind of model is the only one that makes overall sense, especially if one considers the question of how atomic structuring arose. -Physics now proposes a model involving a Big Bang, followed by the appearance of a panoply of different subatomic units like muons, the Higgs boson, etc. -With my model, our quantum/atomic universe was created by sending quantum electrons, from an atomically-structured base, through the ether beyond. The linear paths of the electrons through the ether aligned the vibrations of the ether units there, causing them to entrain with each other, forming larger units, up to the size scale of quantum units: protons and neutrons, and atoms. While it's true that larger numbers of muons have been detected around the earth, which physics proposes arise when cosmic rays strike earth's outer atmosphere, my model would counter that those muons merely stem from vast cosmic collisions such as quasars and the like. The current standard model in physics will never account for the systematic orderliness of atomic structuring.
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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You forgot to take Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Elmer Fudd and Marvin the Martian into account.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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While it's true that larger numbers of muons have been detected around the earth, which physics proposes arise when cosmic rays strike earth's outer atmosphere, my model would counter that those muons merely stem from vast cosmic collisions such as quasars and the like. Larger numbers of muons compared to what? So, you do not even have a clue what a quasar is. Such as quasars and the like? WTF is and the like? You must have worked for months on this post.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Michael MD Member (Idle past 543 days) Posts: 108 Joined: |
When you refer to my ether model and remark that I "haven't a clue what a quasar is," you are starting to venture into a whole area of cosmology. To address how my ether model would treat quasars, and compare that to how quantum physics views the origin of quasars, would require deviating the discussion into pages and pages of new dialogue/debate,
My Creation Model has a basically-different overview, compared to "random forces" quantum physics, of how cosmic events like quasars originate. My Ether Model views cosmic forces and events like quasars from the viewpoint that such things are "under management" of ether-technology groups (does the term "UFO" ring a bell?), operating occultly with respect the earth people, who use etheric forces to keep the areas where entities exist safe from such chaotic disturbances as quasars. To just touch on how my model views quasars in particular, they are super-energic systems resulting from super-nova collisions that have gotten out of hand, producing an enormous chaotic non-linear focus of energy requiring technological application, by UFOs, of even-greater, purely-linear ("cleaner") etheric forces, to overcome them, to where their non-linear chaotic effects can't disturb more-distant cosmic areas where entities are located. The quasar's super-energies are still there as seen astronomically, but no longer as harmful.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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quote: No, it’s just pointing out that you are a silly crank who doesn’t know what he is talking about.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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When you refer to my ether model and remark that I "haven't a clue what a quasar is," you are starting to venture into a whole area of cosmology. Well, you brought quasars up in the first place. Thank you for confirming that you still don't have a clue what they are.
My Ether Model views cosmic forces and events like quasars from the viewpoint that such things are "under management" of ether-technology groups (does the term "UFO" ring a bell?), operating occultly with respect the earth people, who use etheric forces to keep the areas where entities exist safe from such chaotic disturbances as quasars. OK, now we are getting somewhere, your "Ether Model" is a science fiction and fantasy story. Watch out for those ether technology anal probes! Edited by Tanypteryx, : No reason given.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Michael MD Member (Idle past 543 days) Posts: 108 Joined: |
As I said, I wouldn't want to take my Ether Model into the area of cosmology. My basic model of elemental forces and a universal ether has not gotten serious consideration yet, so it would be inappropriate to try to extend it further into the other area of theory.
The subject of cosmic muons came up in discussing creation and how atomic structuring may relate to that, but I would not want to take it any further into cosmologic theory.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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As I said, I wouldn't want to take my Ether Model into the area of cosmology. My basic model of elemental forces and a universal ether has not gotten serious consideration yet, so it would be inappropriate to try to extend it further into the other area of theory. You are making the right decision, it should stay in the hypothetical fantasy and science fiction section.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Michael MD Member (Idle past 543 days) Posts: 108 Joined: |
I mentioned that I didn't want to try promoting my Ether Model by applying it to cosmology, there would be an "other" area of theory I think my model would fit into well.
The question what is the nature of Time has been an ongoing subject of controversy for a long time. -Some fairly well-known theorists have even suggested abolishing the idea that Time actually exists at all (a concept that would fail to account for the finding that Time can vary with different locations and states of motion.) If you apply my model, of a universal ether composed of individual units that vibrate, one can then propose a highly-rational theory of what Time actually is. Time would be a Rate, specifically the vibratory rate of the units that comprise the ether, because the ether (logically) must be universal, and must exist everywhere, existing both inside and outside everything.
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
You really do like "your model" don't you? I suppose that SI cannot compete for her attention. But hey! There is always the freedom of speech!
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Time would be a Rate,
This makes no sense. Time is prior to any notion of rate. I'd say that Tanypteryx nailed it, when he said this all belongs in the science fiction and fantasy section.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Please stop insulting Science Fiction and Fantasy.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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Please stop insulting Science Fiction and Fantasy. Hey there's a lot of shitty science fiction out there. MD added flying saucers, turning his model into just shitty fiction.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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Non-existence comes into play with any ether-based creation model, especially because the rate of units is shared by universal time, as opposed to individual units which must stand or fall depending on vibrational position and the motion of states.
--Percy
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