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Message 363 of 773 (889498)
11-30-2021 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 362 by Phat
11-30-2021 12:47 PM


Re: Mandatory Empathy and Government Control
The world is sliding towards cultural marxism and it will end up being the death (the last and final days) of this planet.
Since you are so concerned about cultural Marxism, maybe you can explain what it is. I have tried a google lookup. But, as best I can tell, there's no such thing.
Given that Marx was opposed to capitalism, and thought things should be for the people at large, one might guess that cultural Marxism is just saying that culture should come from the people. But culture has always come from the people. Even the suggestion of a marketplace of ideas, such as we often hear from conservatives, effectively puts culture in the hands of the people.
So what is this cultural Marxism that troubles you? Or is it just a meaningless buzzword?

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Message 368 of 773 (889504)
12-01-2021 6:33 PM
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12-01-2021 3:30 PM


Re: Mandatory Empathy and Government Control
The only part of collectivism that I favor is the collective bargaining of a labor union.
And yet you belong to the evangelical Christian collective and you regularly vote for the Republican collective.

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Message 382 of 773 (889519)
12-02-2021 12:37 PM
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12-02-2021 10:30 AM


Re: Mandatory Empathy and Government Control
The question is "which people"? ALL of them? (Globalism writ LARGE)
If you have a point, then it is not clear what that point is.
There are already differences between culture in the south, culture in the northeast, culture in California. Nobody is forcing a common culture.
I am NOT referring to the conspiracy theory.
Okay, so you have told us something that cultural Marxism isn't. But you still have not said what it is. You just respond in an evasive manner.
It is pretty obvious that you don't know what cultural Marxism is (or that it isn't actually anything at all).
And yet you belong to the evangelical Christian collective and you regularly vote for the Republican collective.
Not true. I voted for Biden over Trump in the last election, though I now regret it.
What's not true? That you regret voting for Biden only confirms that you regularly vote Republican.
In any case, my point was that you criticize collectivism, but you obviously do not understand what it is.
According to the subtitle, you are worried about government control. Yet you are fully under control of the right wing propaganda network. They tell you to fear "cultural Marxism", so you fear it without even bothering to find out what it is. They tell you to fear collectivism, so you fear it without understanding what it is. You are a captive of the propagandists, because you don't think for yourself. If they tell you to jump, you jump. If they tell you to be afraid, you are afraid.
Even if government tried to control you, they could not do it nearly as effectively as the right wing propaganda controls you.

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Message 405 of 773 (889544)
12-03-2021 12:29 PM
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12-03-2021 11:01 AM


Re: Darker Future For USA
Quit calling me an idiot just because I lean conservative at times.
No, you do not lean conservative. Your leaning is toward radical right wing extremism, which is very different from conservatism.

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Message 413 of 773 (889552)
12-03-2021 8:25 PM
Reply to: Message 408 by Phat
12-03-2021 3:38 PM


Re: Mandatory Empathy and Government Control
High blood sugars aside, my rants stem from my fears.
Yes, we can see that (we can see the fear).
The right wing propagandists stir up your fears, and that is how they control you. They get you to act on fear instead of acting on reason.
I am scared of an economic collapse,
Yes, we see that too. But recent history shows that the Republicans crash the economy and the Democrats step in to rescue it. Yet your fears cause you to vote for the Republicans.
but I am more scared of the government taking control of the money away from the people..."
The Republicans want to take your money and give it to the very rich. They want to kill social security, so that more can go to the very rich. They want to kill medicare so that more can go to the very rich.
Yet your fear causes you to vote for Republicans.
If the Democrats ever do any wealth redistribution, it is likely that they will take something from the very rich and give it to people like you.
You are driven by fear to vote against your own best interests.
We are only trying to persuade you to look at evidence and think for yourself, instead of allowing the right wing propagandists to control you with their fear mongering.

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Message 419 of 773 (889558)
12-04-2021 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 417 by Phat
12-04-2021 1:00 PM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
Oh Phat, you are so foolish.
I did not watch that video. I did read the bullet points that you quoted, and they did not impress me. As jar keeps telling you, what matter is content rather than the source.
I conclude that the wealthy people are strongly against inflating the US Dollar as that action threatens their wealth.
I'm retired. I am against inflation, because my pension won't keep up.
As far as I know, there are several retired people who post here, and probably have a similar view of inflation. But, unlike you, we are not in panic about it.
The progressives see no problem as they actually want the wealthy to pay their "fair share" even though inflation is a "hidden tax" and will affect ALL of us.
This is bullshit. Progressives do not want inflation.
From one of your bulletpoints:
Generation of entitled American socialists don’t think stealing is wrong.
This is also bullshit.
Firstly, most progressives are not socialists. Secondly, many progressives see free market capitalism as theft, and they do see that theft as wrong.
From your subsequent response to ringo
If you and the rest of EvC vote in a spend-happy government then I have no say as to where my tax dollars go and no say on whether taxes will in fact increase for me.
You still don't get it. Trump and the Republicans were the spend-happy government.
Yes, Trump gave you a tiny tax cut. He threw you a bone, hoping that you wouldn't notice that you will be paying higher taxes for the rest of your life because of Trump's tax give away to the wealthy.

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Message 420 of 773 (889560)
12-04-2021 2:01 PM
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12-04-2021 1:00 PM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
Schiff commented on the Rittenhouse verdict at 41:05.
I forgot to comment on that, so I'll add that as another reply.
I think Rittenhouse acted foolishly. I do not know whether he is racist. I have no opinion on whether the trial was racist, but perhaps the jury selection might be where to look for that.
If you want my detailed opinion on the trial, then check my blog post on that topic. In short, I respect the jury verdict.

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Message 422 of 773 (889564)
12-04-2021 4:30 PM
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12-04-2021 3:10 PM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
I am not a gun owner, but I respect the jury verdict.
As a gun owning and gun carrying US citizen I have never and would never go armed to a protest. Rittenhouse behaved like the kid whose brain has never developed yet and who has never been taught morality or how to even think. He is an unfortunate product of the abysmal state of US education. What he did was simply stupid and an indication of his complete and total immaturity.
I completely agree with this (apart from not being a gun owner).

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Message 471 of 773 (889625)
12-09-2021 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 467 by jar
12-09-2021 7:48 AM


Re: the lies are winning
The world divorced from reality, reason, honesty, morality and even common sense is growing like a cancer.
I'm at the point where getting old seems a good thing. I won't have to live through the impending disasters.

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Message 475 of 773 (889629)
12-09-2021 6:01 PM
Reply to: Message 474 by Phat
12-09-2021 4:15 PM


Re: Mandatory Empathy and Government Control
And for one thing, the money needs to be genuine and not "created" through an IOU. Fiat money is the bane of the FED.
It's time you got over your aversion to fiat currency. The gold standard was itself abitrary and capricious.

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Message 500 of 773 (889784)
12-15-2021 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 499 by Percy
12-15-2021 1:29 PM


Re: A Prime Example of Racism
I'm replying to this, because one "like" is not nearly enough.

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Message 546 of 773 (890098)
12-24-2021 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 544 by LamarkNewAge
12-24-2021 4:56 PM


Re: Ringo's direct commentary on John Wayne's "white supremacist" line in post 526
If you have a point here, it is not clear what that point is.
The entire Playboy interview can be found HERE. It's a pdf file, and the comment about Angela Davis is on page 7.
The views that Wayne expressed there (about politics) were probably similar to the views of many conservatives at that time. Ronald Reagan likely had similar views, though he would have expressed them with more subtlety.

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Message 579 of 773 (890373)
01-04-2022 5:10 PM
Reply to: Message 578 by Phat
01-04-2022 4:25 PM


Re: Your Accusations May Be Close
I feel like the one who is always stepping on people's toes and having to continually apologize and humble myself.
As a Christian, shouldn't you be naturally humble?
If I can lay it down, why must they pick it up?
You have not shown that you can lay it down.
I fight being made to feel inferior, guilty, and responsible.
This is what I have trouble understanding.
Yes, indigent Americans were badly mistreated. So were indigent Australians (that's where I grew up). And so were the slaves brought to America.
I have never felt inferior or guilty or personally responsible about this. Yet I recognize that American society has a debt to repay to those who were harmed. And I have no problem with the idea that some of the taxes that I pay are used for this compensation.
You claim you are made to feel guilty, yet you are unwilling to do anything to correct the injustice. Why is that?

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Message 587 of 773 (891416)
01-29-2022 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 586 by Sarah Bellum
01-29-2022 3:00 PM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
Just let it go, boy!
I suggest you follow that advice yourself.

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Message 699 of 773 (892756)
03-13-2022 1:08 PM
Reply to: Message 698 by xongsmith
03-13-2022 12:59 PM


Re: R E S P E C T
but lately he seems to have improved. he sentences are better.
Yes, I think that's right. I hope it means he is getting his diabetes under better control.

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