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Percy
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Message 466 of 773 (889620)
12-09-2021 7:45 AM
Reply to: Message 465 by xongsmith
12-08-2021 6:04 PM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
xongsmith writes:
Jeezo man, Percy - you been layin' it on pretty thick.
I'll let everyone decide for themselves whether I'm being fair to Marc. My own feelings are that the lies, the gaslighted racism, the false claims and accusations, the fabrications, the inhumanity, and so on, were not finding effective counters as Marc would just ignore them by disappearing, wait a random amount of time, then return and perform the same act again.
Views not arrived at by reason cannot be countered by reason and should not be treated seriously. Mockery, disdain, scorn and ridicule are more appropriate responses to the determinedly irrational.
My own personal opinion is that I'm not being unfair to Marc because the lies he's telling are the dangerous and divisive Trumpian ones that have divided the country and turned the Republican party into zombies. Ask any Republican whether Biden won the election fairly and the most likely response is bunch of hogwash. I feel these ideas should be challenged in the most compelling ways possible. I find the mainstream media to be as much milquetoasts as the president, for example, gently chiding the Republican party for its highly effective efforts at voter disenfranchisement.
--Percy

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jar
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Message 467 of 773 (889621)
12-09-2021 7:48 AM
Reply to: Message 466 by Percy
12-09-2021 7:45 AM


the lies are winning
Yesterday the US Senate repealed the mandate on vaccinate or test for many private businesses.
The world divorced from reality, reason, honesty, morality and even common sense is growing like a cancer.

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AZPaul3
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Message 468 of 773 (889622)
12-09-2021 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 466 by Percy
12-09-2021 7:45 AM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
I'll let everyone decide for themselves whether I'm being fair to Marc.
No issues from this corner.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Message 469 of 773 (889623)
12-09-2021 8:37 AM
Reply to: Message 466 by Percy
12-09-2021 7:45 AM


Unfairness
I think you’re being unfair to Sheldon.

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Message 470 of 773 (889624)
12-09-2021 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 466 by Percy
12-09-2021 7:45 AM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
My own personal opinion is that I'm not being unfair to Marc
I don't think it's possible to be unfair to him. In my opinion he's a disgusting piece shit, a turd that won't flush. He's a classic example of what a good con man Trump is. I think engaging him just encourages him to smear his bullshit everywhere.
There's a saying about wrestling pigs (or pig fuckers) that applies here.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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nwr
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Message 471 of 773 (889625)
12-09-2021 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 467 by jar
12-09-2021 7:48 AM


Re: the lies are winning
The world divorced from reality, reason, honesty, morality and even common sense is growing like a cancer.
I'm at the point where getting old seems a good thing. I won't have to live through the impending disasters.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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ringo
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Message 472 of 773 (889626)
12-09-2021 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 417 by Phat
12-04-2021 1:00 PM


Re: Racism Is Not A One Way Street
Phat writes:
balh blah blah....
If you're going to respond to my posts, why don't you respond to something I said?

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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ringo
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Message 473 of 773 (889627)
12-09-2021 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 418 by Phat
12-04-2021 1:10 PM


Re: Mandatory Empathy and Government Control
Phat writes:
ringo writes:
So, what else do governments have to throw besides money?
The point is the mandate which that government has been given. If you and the rest of EvC vote in a spend-happy government then I have no say as to where my tax dollars go and no say on whether taxes will in fact increase for me.
That doesn't answer the question. What do you expect governments to do besides spend money?

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Phat
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Message 474 of 773 (889628)
12-09-2021 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 473 by ringo
12-09-2021 10:58 AM


Re: Mandatory Empathy and Government Control
ringo writes:
What do you expect governments to do besides spend money?
First of all, I expect the people to be more united as to what type of government they vote in. If 53 people make a decision which 47 disagree with and don't like, that's a split that causes more pain than healing.
The people need to really and honestly look at the big picture.
And for one thing, the money needs to be genuine and not "created" through an IOU. Fiat money is the bane of the FED.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
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(1894).


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nwr
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Message 475 of 773 (889629)
12-09-2021 6:01 PM
Reply to: Message 474 by Phat
12-09-2021 4:15 PM


Re: Mandatory Empathy and Government Control
And for one thing, the money needs to be genuine and not "created" through an IOU. Fiat money is the bane of the FED.
It's time you got over your aversion to fiat currency. The gold standard was itself abitrary and capricious.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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NosyNed
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Message 476 of 773 (889630)
12-09-2021 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 474 by Phat
12-09-2021 4:15 PM


Fiat currancy
Just what is "fiat currancy"? What's wrong with it? What do you think should be used instead?

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jar
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Message 477 of 773 (889631)
12-09-2021 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 474 by Phat
12-09-2021 4:15 PM


learn the very basics Phat.
Phat, do you have ANY idea what money and currency are?
If I write you a check do you consider that Fiat?
Phat, quit listening to the Carny Hucksters and Snake Oil Salesmen.
Try to learn a few basics.
Edited by jar, : No reason given.

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Percy
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Message 478 of 773 (889632)
12-09-2021 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 474 by Phat
12-09-2021 4:15 PM


Re: Mandatory Empathy and Government Control
Phat writes:
And for one thing, the money needs to be genuine and not "created" through an IOU. Fiat money is the bane of the FED.
Are you wearing fact repellant?
--Percy

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AZPaul3
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Message 479 of 773 (889633)
12-09-2021 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 474 by Phat
12-09-2021 4:15 PM


Re: Mandatory Empathy and Government Control
First of all, I expect the people to be more united as to what type of government they vote in.
We keep trying, Phat, but you and your righteous rightists fight like republican demons against humanism and altruism. If you would just vote blue instead of repressive republican red we could achieve the super majority of political thought you seek.
I've offered you this before, Phat. It is not too late. Come over to the dark (blue) side.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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dwise1
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Message 480 of 773 (889634)
12-09-2021 9:22 PM
Reply to: Message 479 by AZPaul3
12-09-2021 9:07 PM


Re: Mandatory Empathy and Government Control
Come over to the dark (blue) side.
You mean to the Navy side? Huh-ah! The Good of the Order! Square yourself away, sailor!
And an added benefit is the US Navy's absolute dependence on evolutions, so that can never again be called into question without those pukes receiving a Letter of Counseling.

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