How the Bible Actually Works

They reject Jesus as God's son.And you are still just tap dancing.What makes the idea of Jesus ever existing more plausible than Ganesha or Raven or Coyote or Zues or Odin or ... ?Edited by jar, : No reason given.

The fact that Phat accepts the concept that at least one God should exist is interesting.Is there any reasoned argument to support the concept that at least one God should exist?Even if an argument might be made that there was some initiator, and that initiator would be called a God, is there any reason to think the initiator would continue to exist after the instant of initiating?

I'm sorry Phat but that is NOT a reasoned argument but rather just utter crap; particularly the attempt to tie it to the dollar bill.It's snake-oil spiel like that that can only be taken seriously by the totally deluded fools who are utterly divorced from all reasoning and reality.And no one here is advocating humanist behavior to gain salvation or avoid damnation but rather simply because it is the only method that has been shown to work.

Yup; preaching a gospel that says folk should feed the hungry, comfort the sorrowful, clothe the naked, protect the weak, shelter the homeless, heal the sick is certainly the most dangerous thing we face today.Edited by jar, : fix sub-title

Because that would be lying Phat. I believe there is a GOD and that I will be judged after my death. You keep asserting that Phat but is there evidence of a molten core, of distant galaxies or other humans that actually DO help?Have you ever actually read the Bible Phat? Did God build the Ark? During the Exodus did the people have to walk, to gather the mana, the honey, the wild partridges and prepare the food themselves? Did God harvest the surplus, build the granaries, store the surplus and distribute it to the needy? Did God gather up the surplus at the fish fry and distribute it to the hungry? Did Jesus tell us to feed the hungry, comfort the sorrowful, clothe the naked, protect the weak, shelter the homeless, heal the sick?The Bible from beginning to end tells people that it is up to them to actually do. What is the purpose of ritualism and ceremony? Do you even know the basics?But then, in the very same paragraph you mention the BCP (Book of Common Prayer). Again, you are simply showing your utter ignorance Phat.
The BCP is a tool designed to be used by both the clergy and the individual, something to guide one's daily life and devotions with morning and evening prayer, a liturgy designed for the individual rather than the priest, to set each day in motion with a concentration on one's duty to others and to end each day's efforts with an honest evaluation of your individual performance. It even has daily readings that cover the whole Bible in a three-year cycle.So, I ask you yet again; "How is preaching a gospel that says folk should feed the hungry, comfort the sorrowful, clothe the naked, protect the weak, shelter the homeless, heal the sick the most dangerous thing we face today or the most dangerous thing on this board?"AbE: I'd love to see you or anyone else try to present a reasoned argument that supports that assertion.Remember that Germany and Italy and Japan and Poland and Austria and the US and England were ALL religious. And the majority were also Christian.Edited by jar, : fix grammar

Edited by jar, : see the Abe for a chuckle or three.

First, please note that absolutely nothing in your whole post actually addressed anything I posted in the message to which you replied. Yes, it seems so; and it seems they directly resemble the Christians that supported Hitler.Really Phat, please try to learn the basics. Hitler was a Christian, raised as a Christian and there was even an official Nazi Christian Chapter of Club Christian.Now rather than continuing your mental masturbation, perhaps you could actually address the issues I raised in Message 114?

Honestly, in the US today the Bible works almost entirely as a money and power generating advertising tool.The vast majority of Christian religious leaders whether they call themselves Pastor or Brother or Elder or Priest use it only as a pick your point for confirmation bias generator and cudgel to threaten and intimidate.The vast majority of the laity never honestly read it or in far too many instances never touch the stuff.The Bible today in the US is almost exclusively a marketing tool, a propaganda piece, a collection of literature that's only value and worth is to move gold into the coffers of the few and to impower that few to control and manipulate the masses to centralize power and diminish humanity, honor, morality and education.Edited by jar, : left out for

So according to tradition Jesus was simply human and not god.Thank you Phat.Edited by jar, : fix sub-title

No Phat, you are simply showing your ignorance yet again.No one taught me that there is no way to tell; rather no one has ever been able to show that there is a way to tell.Basics Phat. Learn the basics of how to think. You have tried to assert such a silly position but have never tried to support it with evidence or reasoned argument.BUT, have you ever read the Bible Phat?Did God build the Ark? During the Exodus did the people have to walk, to gather the mana, the honey, the wild partridges and prepare the food themselves? Did God harvest the surplus, build the granaries, store the surplus and distribute it to the needy? Did God gather up the surplus at the fish fry and distribute it to the hungry? Did Jesus tell us to feed the hungry, comfort the sorrowful, clothe the naked, protect the weak, shelter the homeless, heal the sick?And it's simply silly to think anyone here other than the utterly braindead has suggested doing good for society.We are charged to do good for people Phat, not societies, not governments, not corporations, for people.AbE:In the message your reply is linked from I asked, "What makes the idea of Jesus ever existing more plausible than Ganesha or Raven or Coyote or Zues or Odin or ...?"And once again instead of actually addressing what others write you simply tap dance and fall back on word salad, dogma and carny snake-oil salesman palm the pea misdirection.This way to see the Egress.Perhaps for once in the years you've been posting here you might actually try to deal with what others post.Edited by jar, : see AbE: