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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
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Message 1954 of 2073 (879871)
07-23-2020 8:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1953 by dad
07-23-2020 6:01 PM


That is not an assumption. That is fact, and you can not show otherwise, can you.
You still have nothing.

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Message 1964 of 2073 (889231)
11-11-2021 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1961 by EWolf
11-10-2021 9:23 PM


Response to Religious BS
This issue may be better addressed by a discussion on whether religion should be encouraged in education or not.
Where in education?
Religion is the bane of this species. It is a belief in ghosts, gods, and hobgoblins that don’t exist. The major problem with religion is its adherents resort to bloody violence at the least provocation. Our history is one of constant pervasive religious warfare and religious abuse of humanity. Religion should no longer have a place in the minds of men.
But religion is a reality that should be studied. Studied with the goal of understanding its lust for power, its penchant for violence, and to negate those influences on society. That is university level study, not grade school.
In the public primary and secondary schools religion is poison to developing young minds and has no place in the education of our young. Religious study should be relegated to university levels after the young have been taught how to think critically and have some understanding that ghosts, gods, and hobgoblins are fake and that there is a reality to be lived.
it's impossible to keep religious influence out of any action including educating.
Bull.
Yes, the student should be made aware of and familiarized with the widespread presence of the evolutionary mindset.
Oh that is rich. Evolutionary mindset. You mean the mindset of reality. Anything less is blind, intellectually deficient, whimsical fantasy. Stupidity.
why do scientists that support Biblical creation tend to be looked down upon?
Because, in fact, such thinking is stupid whimsical fantasy that our history shows leads to bloodshed and death. Such has no place in science and those who think such and say they are scientists are no more than delusional or charlatan.
Why do many teachers tend to prefer to teach evolution in the absence of Biblical truth?
There isn’t any biblical truth. The truth is physics with evolution as one of its major accomplishments.
Honest science does not support evolution.
Does the name Aaron Rodgers mean anything to you? Aaron doesn’t believe in biology either. You’re both stupid.
FYI, the only science to support reality is the honest, real, demonstrable science and that includes evolution. Religious weenies keep trying to kill evolution but, since it is the reality of this world as revealed by real science, your errant religious whining means nothing to this universe.
With such as the basis of self government and good behavior, why the big fuss toward throwing it out of public life?
Because religion has failed big time as a basis for any human interaction. Religion’s history is nothing but blind belief in fantasy, power-mad bloodletting, misery and strife. Religion has failed humanity and has proven itself to be catastrophic, caustic and deadly. Even to placate the intellectually weak religion should no longer have any place in human society.
Is it not it that keeps you and me from wanting to harm each other?
No, it’s not. Religion is violent, repressive and intellectually void as shown by your efforts here to obfuscate, deny the obvious and impose your bloody cult on humanity.
Freedom to live this standard that America's founding fathers gave us at great cost should never have been under attack as it now is.
Freedom is not dependent on your cult. The founding fathers gave us a secular government and your blood-thirst, power-mad priests have no role to play. None.
This country was progressing just fine until the religious right and their alt-reich bedmates decided they owned the place and is now forcing their own religious restrictions, their own fickle hypocritical morality, a denial of human freedoms, and a religions lust for absolute power upon our people.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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Message 1966 of 2073 (889235)
11-11-2021 6:32 PM
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11-11-2021 6:03 PM


Re: Response to Religious BS
Any student of history knows the vile bloody story of religion. Religious apologists try to justify the cruelty that religion has done to this species by some appeal to the personal comfort felt by some zombies that have already had their brains eaten by the priests.
The millions of humans whose lives were horrifically, painfully, cut short by the evil that is religion would disagree with you. The poison is already loose. Has been for millennia. The task now is to stop it.
The peanut gallery need to know the reality. Religion is ethically, morally, intellectually evil and needs to die.

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Message 2034 of 2073 (889722)
12-11-2021 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 2025 by EWolf
12-09-2021 9:32 PM


Our wayward nature tends to blind us to God's noon day presence, thus making it necessary that we be informed of Him.
In other words, your god does not exist and people, especially children, must be inculcated, brainwashed, into a false belief.
You can not show us god. You can’t even show his works. You point to nature and declare “The Majik Of God!” without showing any connection. You have no knowledge, you have no facts, evidence, data. All you have is a deeply held belief based upon your all too faulty human emotion.
Since we know with confidence that it doesn’t exist are you sure you correctly understood all you should know about God? Are you sure you are not without a full unbiased understanding of what the universe says about Him? Do you recognize the biblical fiction or have you been irrevocably blinded?
Show us any thing, fact, structure or process that screams that only a god could do this without any viable natural alternative.
Show us your god.
Thanks for your admitting that you are not perfect as none of us are. But isn't there a need for us to do something about it? May we go from here?
Perfection, like your god, does not exist in this universe. From the Pauli Exclusion Principle to the Schrödinger equation this universe draws with imperfect paints on an imperfect canvas. Your god’s perfection, which you cannot show, is nothing more than your own personal heartfelt article of faith. It means nothing in the imperfect reality of this universe.
Ones ignorance of his debt does not negate the fact that he owes it.
Yes, guilty of birth. And the priests are the only ones with the vaccine. How powerfully and financially convenient. What a scam you Christians have built. That is evil.
You and your priests cannot saddle me with your false god’s fake debt. Your christian demon's attempt to poison my mind and enslave my soul has failed.
If you really think in your heart that knowledge based on the word of God is untruth, then why aren't you consistent with it in all points of your life even to the point that the commandments not to steal and kill appear as mythical so that you would violate them with no thought?
Are you really this mentally damaged? Are you so deranged that only the specter of your false god keeps you from being a baby-raping, chainsaw slashing psychopath? Please, for the sake of humanity, stay with your religion. As dangerous as religion is, apparently you’re too damn dangerous without it.
Neither can I buy any of your other claims against God.
What god? Yours? What claims? That it’s fake?
So show us wrong.

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Message 2040 of 2073 (890126)
12-26-2021 10:39 AM
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12-26-2021 9:59 AM


Not yet.

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Message 2053 of 2073 (892882)
03-16-2022 9:38 PM


Where Dem At?
Other than the discovery institute are there other religious affiliated groups trying to get school boards to teach religion in their science classes?
Is there a web site that tracks these things?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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