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Tangle
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Message 4 of 54 (890282)
12-31-2021 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by jar
12-31-2021 10:59 AM


Re: a few preliminaries
Jar writes:
First, that I believe that there is a god and that after I die, I will be judged.
Is the result of this judgement binary - heaven or hell for all eternity?
Second, that my beliefs will have had some impacts on my behavior over time.
It would be strange if they didn't.
Do you attend church every week, pray, get involved in community stuff?

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 10 of 54 (890297)
12-31-2021 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by jar
12-31-2021 1:24 PM


Re: a few preliminaries
Jar writes:
I have absolutely no idea.
Judgement does suggest some kind of reward or punishment though doesn't it? Somebody is deciding something?
Jar writes:
I do pray quite often
Is this the usual oneway conversation?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 14 of 54 (890306)
12-31-2021 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by jar
12-31-2021 5:48 PM


"My point is that beliefs, even those that are totally unevidenced, irrational, illogical and absurd such as belief in the supernatural are only problematic if they contribute to counter-productive and harmful behavior."
Discuss in no more than 3,000 words

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 27 of 54 (890331)
01-01-2022 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by AZPaul3
01-01-2022 1:02 PM


Re: On nurture from a personal perspective.
AZP writes:
He is a humanist already.
He's nearer a Deist I think. A bit like Percy but with added Christian woo, like the weird Greatest I am.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 48 of 54 (890494)
01-06-2022 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Greatest I am
01-06-2022 2:25 PM


Re: On nurture from a personal perspective.
GIA writes:
Tangle
A holes like you try to put the supernatural woo where there is none.
That seems unlikely given that I'm an atheist.
A holes insult others without purpose, except to show that are a holes who have no clue about what they are talking about.
I had to look up what you'd were so offended by. I inferred you were a deist with added woo! Truth often offends I suppose.
But seriously, you don't believe in Christianity but you keep quoting the bible at us. You must find that hilarious. I know I do.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 50 of 54 (890498)
01-06-2022 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Greatest I am
01-06-2022 4:57 PM


Re: On nurture from a personal perspective.
GIA writes:
Especially stupid a hole atheists who do not know much about religions.
You do know that you can write 'arse' if that's what you mean? A hole atheist seems a bit daft - I live in a very conventional house.
who do not know much about religions.
Being baptised a Christian and subject to Christian indoctrination until my teens, I suspect I know at least as much as you about Christianity. As for your bizarre form of it I admit to being more than a little bemused about.
Christianity without god is like discovering a turd that didn't originate from an arse - rather difficult to place.
You could have tried to explain your religion/belief/tradition without alienating the entire board but that's your choice I guess.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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