Do you have Questions for a Gnostic Christian?

Not fair.

Come on; Phat has never been exposed to any of the basics of the Abrahamic/Masoretic traditions.

Officer Krupke would understand.

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What about Cyrus, from 2 Isaiah?

Saul was annointed an earthly king by humans. Jesus was officially anointed through baptism by John the Baptist and as the story goes was verified through God Himself.

Jesus knew no sin. Saul had plenty of em.

You have never read the Bible Phat.

Jesus took money from the commune/collective and spent it on luxuries for himself.

Jesus vandalized and destroyed others property.

You have never understood the Bible. The fact that you attack and criticize Jesus Christ, the central character and in fact the closest to GOD with your purposeful slander prevents you from being a serious teacher worth anything.

Jesus never spent money on Himself in any way not allowed. Who gets to police the "common treasury"? Who did it belong to?

And what's ironic is that this same scenario of what belongs to "everybody" vs what belongs to a given individual will be one of the outright outrageous attempts by a liberal government to steal from the people. It figures that you would start by attacking Jesus.

Phat writes: Jesus never spent money on Himself in any way not allowed. Who gets to police the "common treasury"? Who did it belong to?

The common treasury belonged to everyone in the commune/cooperative, not to any single individual.

The property he destroyed belonged to the owners of the stalls.

Phat writes: And what's ironic is that this same scenario of what belongs to "everybody" vs what belongs to a given individual will be one of the outright outrageous attempts by a liberal government to steal from the people. It figures that you would start by attacking Jesus.

And once again you simply present another unsupported assertion without any evidence or reasoned argument.

I did not attack Jesus but simply pointed out yet again what is actually written in the Bible stories.

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Saul was annointed an earthly king by humans. Jesus was officially anointed through baptism by John the Baptist and as the story goes was verified through God Himself.

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Baptism is not anointment. Water is not oil. Try again.

"What about Cyrus, from 2 Isaiah?"

Jesus was at issue, not Cyrus.

Regards
DL

Baptism is not anointing to Christ.

I am surprised you would see them as the same.

Regards
DL

I'm surprised you are not familiar with the Rite of Baptism when the infant is washed clean with water and then sealed by anointing with oil.

From the Rite of Baptism in the Book of Common Prayer.

Consecration of the Chrism performed by a Bishop;

Eternal Father, whose blessed Son was anointed by the
Holy Spirit to be the Savior and servant of all, we pray you to
consecrate this oil, that those who are sealed with it may
share in the royal priesthood of Jesus Christ; who lives and
reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, for ever and ever. Amen.

The priest after washing the individual then seals the individual with the sign of the cross on the persons forehead using the consecrated oil.

The Baptism

Each candidate is presented by name to the Celebrant, or to an assisting
priest or deacon, who then immerses, or pours water upon, the
candidate, saying

N., I baptize you in the Name of the Father, and of the Son,
and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

Holy Baptism 307

When this action has been completed for all candidates, the Bishop or
Priest, at a place in full sight of the congregation, prays over them, saying

Let us pray.

Heavenly Father, we thank you that by water and the Holy
Spirit you have bestowed upon these your servants the
forgiveness of sin, and have raised them to the new life of
grace. Sustain them, O Lord, in your Holy Spirit. Give them
an inquiring and discerning heart, the courage to will and to
persevere, a spirit to know and to love you, and the gift of joy
and wonder in all your works. Amen.

Then the Bishop or Priest places a hand on the person's head, marking
on the forehead the sign of the cross [using Chrism if desired] and saying to
each one

N., you are sealed by the Holy Spirit in Baptism and marked
as Christ's own for ever. Amen.

Or this action may be done immediately after the administration of the
water and before the preceding prayer.

When all have been baptized, the Celebrant says

Let us welcome the newly baptized.

Celebrant and People

We receive you into the household of God. Confess the faith
of Christ crucified, proclaim his resurrection, and share with
us in his eternal priesthood.

While Jesus might not have been anointed, I certainly was.

Phat writes: Who gets to police the "common treasury"?

It isn't about "policing" anything. You're trying to use legality to weasel out of morality.

Are you thus saying that Jesus was immoral? It's amazing how satan uses you to twist scripture.

Phat writes: Are you thus saying that Jesus was immoral?

I said that YOU are confusing legality with morality. There was no legal framework in Jesus' community. Misuse of community funds was a moral issue, not a legal one.

Phat writes: It's amazing how satan uses you to twist scripture.

Feel free to show anything that I have twisted.

The only satan is within you.

That’s an answer worthy of the Christian Cult of Ignorance.

Anglican baptism practices are not the question. The practices of John the Baptist is the question. Feel free to provide evidence that John the Baptist included anointment as part of his baptism. Or better that he did so specifically - and only - for Jesus.

I can't and if you actually read what I wrote you would have known that.

Learn to read.