Understanding through Discussion


Welcome! You are not logged in. [ Login ]
EvC Forum active members: 66 (9078 total)
132 online now:
dwise1, kjsimons, Percy (Admin) (3 members, 129 visitors)
Newest Member: harveyspecter
Post Volume: Total: 895,311 Year: 6,423/6,534 Month: 616/650 Week: 154/232 Day: 39/54 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Do you have Questions for a Gnostic Christian?
Greatest I am
Member
Posts: 1538
Joined: 01-24-2007


Message 76 of 150 (890741)
01-10-2022 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by jar
01-10-2022 10:05 AM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
I have been baptised. No one told me I was Christ.

I did not admit that to myself till after my apotheosis.

I first had to make sure I had a Jesus consciousness and understood religion his way.

If we are all Christ, what is the big deal of being called a Christ?

An oil bath is no big deal unless it is in a Rub & Tug.

What does being Christ mean to you?

Regards
DL


This message is a reply to:
 Message 70 by jar, posted 01-10-2022 10:05 AM jar has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 78 by jar, posted 01-10-2022 2:22 PM Greatest I am has replied

  
Greatest I am
Member
Posts: 1538
Joined: 01-24-2007


Message 77 of 150 (890742)
01-10-2022 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Phat
01-10-2022 12:05 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
Are you thus saying that Jesus will be acting ethically when he returns and uses the mass murder of Armageddon against humanity?

God can cure just as easily as kill.

I think curing is the moral thing to do.

You?

Regards
DL


This message is a reply to:
 Message 72 by Phat, posted 01-10-2022 12:05 PM Phat has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 83 by Phat, posted 01-10-2022 3:33 PM Greatest I am has not replied

  
jar
Member
Posts: 33957
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004
Member Rating: 2.0


Message 78 of 150 (890743)
01-10-2022 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Greatest I am
01-10-2022 2:10 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
Learn how to read.

It's difficult but likely not impossible, even for you.


My Website: My Website

This message is a reply to:
 Message 76 by Greatest I am, posted 01-10-2022 2:10 PM Greatest I am has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 80 by Greatest I am, posted 01-10-2022 2:33 PM jar has not replied

  
Greatest I am
Member
Posts: 1538
Joined: 01-24-2007


Message 79 of 150 (890744)
01-10-2022 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by ringo
01-10-2022 12:12 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
"There was no legal framework in Jesus' community."

I did not check your full conversation and hope you did not mean all courts.

"The law courts in ancient Athens (4th and 5th centuries BC) were a fundamental organ of democratic governance. ... These courts were jury courts and very large ones: "

More important to the Jews and Jesus would have been their own Holy Council.

Jesus went to a temple first. Not a castle.

Regards
DL


This message is a reply to:
 Message 73 by ringo, posted 01-10-2022 12:12 PM ringo has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 95 by ringo, posted 01-11-2022 10:41 AM Greatest I am has replied

  
Greatest I am
Member
Posts: 1538
Joined: 01-24-2007


Message 80 of 150 (890745)
01-10-2022 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by jar
01-10-2022 2:22 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
I do not know what you mean, but fuck right off.

Regards
DL


This message is a reply to:
 Message 78 by jar, posted 01-10-2022 2:22 PM jar has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 82 by Phat, posted 01-10-2022 3:25 PM Greatest I am has replied

  
PaulK
Member
Posts: 17179
Joined: 01-10-2003


Message 81 of 150 (890760)
01-10-2022 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by jar
01-10-2022 1:49 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
That some sects of Christianity include anointment as an optional part of their baptism ceremony is hardly relevant to the question.

Baptism is not anointment.


This message is a reply to:
 Message 75 by jar, posted 01-10-2022 1:49 PM jar has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 84 by jar, posted 01-10-2022 4:29 PM PaulK has replied

  
Phat
Member
Posts: 16107
From: Denver,Colorado USA
Joined: 12-30-2003
Member Rating: 1.1


Message 82 of 150 (890772)
01-10-2022 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Greatest I am
01-10-2022 2:33 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
Spoken like a true Gnostic wannabe possessed by a demon of hate. And you have the gall to accuse God of being the hateful one. The only things that He will destroy will be the fallen angels and unclean spirits so I suggest you get rid of the one you have before it drags you into death.

I have no issue with you, GIA. I have issues with the false spirit which fills your head with empty knowledge (doctrines of demons) and then embarrasses all of us by you acting so carnally and dismissively while claiming to have found the key belief in Christianity. The orthodox Christian belief is sound. Jesus was never anointed through any human religion or ritual. Nevertheless, He was and is God's son. He existed eternally in Spirit (only one Spirit) and was opposed by the spirits. (many of them, none holy)


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


This message is a reply to:
 Message 80 by Greatest I am, posted 01-10-2022 2:33 PM Greatest I am has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 88 by Greatest I am, posted 01-10-2022 5:09 PM Phat has seen this message but not replied
 Message 89 by Greatest I am, posted 01-10-2022 5:20 PM Phat has replied

  
Phat
Member
Posts: 16107
From: Denver,Colorado USA
Joined: 12-30-2003
Member Rating: 1.1


Message 83 of 150 (890777)
01-10-2022 3:33 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Greatest I am
01-10-2022 2:15 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
If Armageddon happens it will be caused by humans competing for resources. Global warming will in fact cause a similar scenario. The presence of the Holy Spirit on earth causes the other spirits to react, and humans acquire these other spirits by resisting the pull of the Holy Spirit. Satan lies to us by crying foul and saying God is hateful and destructive when in fact the battle is focused only on him and his legions of spirits and demons.

It all sounds bonkers to a supposed enlightened mind, but time will verify what I am telling you. My main job is to work out my own salvation and overcome the evil assigned to me. It won't be easy and likely ringo will be right and I will have to give everything up. I feel too weak to finish this race.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


This message is a reply to:
 Message 77 by Greatest I am, posted 01-10-2022 2:15 PM Greatest I am has not replied

  
jar
Member
Posts: 33957
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004
Member Rating: 2.0


Message 84 of 150 (890785)
01-10-2022 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by PaulK
01-10-2022 3:02 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
Anointment has absolutely nothing to do with divinity.

The whole issue of whether or not Jesus was anointed is totally irrelevant to anything related to whether or not Jesus was divine.

The "Jesus was not anointed" issue is simply irrelevant to anything other than whether or not Jesus was part of the priesthood and officially recognized as such by the Jewish hierarchy at the time.

He wasn't.


My Website: My Website

This message is a reply to:
 Message 81 by PaulK, posted 01-10-2022 3:02 PM PaulK has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 85 by PaulK, posted 01-10-2022 4:59 PM jar has replied

  
PaulK
Member
Posts: 17179
Joined: 01-10-2003


(1)
Message 85 of 150 (890791)
01-10-2022 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by jar
01-10-2022 4:29 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
quote:
Anointment has absolutely nothing to do with divinity.

Nobody said that it did. Anointment does have a lot to do with being anointed, which is the point.

quote:
The whole issue of whether or not Jesus was anointed is totally irrelevant to anything related to whether or not Jesus was divine.

And again, nobody said that it did.

quote:
The "Jesus was not anointed" issue is simply irrelevant to anything other than whether or not Jesus was part of the priesthood and officially recognized as such by the Jewish hierarchy at the time.

The Messiah is supposed to be of the Davidic line and restore the monarchy, so the anointment of kings would be more relevant.

Jesus was almost certainly not of the Davidic line and was never crowned as King of Judah or Israel.


This message is a reply to:
 Message 84 by jar, posted 01-10-2022 4:29 PM jar has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 86 by jar, posted 01-10-2022 5:00 PM PaulK has replied

  
jar
Member
Posts: 33957
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004
Member Rating: 2.0


Message 86 of 150 (890792)
01-10-2022 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by PaulK
01-10-2022 4:59 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
And Jesus is not and has never been seen as a Jewish Messiah.

My Website: My Website

This message is a reply to:
 Message 85 by PaulK, posted 01-10-2022 4:59 PM PaulK has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 87 by PaulK, posted 01-10-2022 5:06 PM jar has replied

  
PaulK
Member
Posts: 17179
Joined: 01-10-2003


Message 87 of 150 (890796)
01-10-2022 5:06 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by jar
01-10-2022 5:00 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
quote:
And Jesus is not and has never been seen as a Jewish Messiah.

Many Christians - especially “Messianic Jews” would disagree.


This message is a reply to:
 Message 86 by jar, posted 01-10-2022 5:00 PM jar has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 90 by jar, posted 01-10-2022 5:54 PM PaulK has replied

  
Greatest I am
Member
Posts: 1538
Joined: 01-24-2007


Message 88 of 150 (890797)
01-10-2022 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Phat
01-10-2022 3:25 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
Phat

I do not have time for all your supernatural based lies.

You talk like you drink with God nightly and hear every fart.

How did you get to know all that personal stuff?

Or have you just been using too many drugs lately?

Can we go logos and not mythos, please, remember that I focus on morality and your inquisition tactics cannot silence me.

Do you recognize that Christianity, when it was good, was a naturalistic religion?

Have you heard of Chrestianity?

Regards
DL


This message is a reply to:
 Message 82 by Phat, posted 01-10-2022 3:25 PM Phat has seen this message but not replied

  
Greatest I am
Member
Posts: 1538
Joined: 01-24-2007


Message 89 of 150 (890800)
01-10-2022 5:20 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Phat
01-10-2022 3:25 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
He was and is God's son.

Explain why Yahweh broke the laws of heaven by having Jesus sacrificed instead of stepping up himself.

That fucking coward, you adore?

The same fucking homophobic God who would have human men hate their gay children?

Would you send your chid to die in your steed, --- and be as fucking evil as the Yahweh you idol worship, --- or would you step up to your own responsibility and be your own sacrifice?

Are you as big of a coward as your God?

Regards
DL


This message is a reply to:
 Message 82 by Phat, posted 01-10-2022 3:25 PM Phat has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 93 by Phat, posted 01-11-2022 8:34 AM Greatest I am has replied

  
jar
Member
Posts: 33957
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004
Member Rating: 2.0


Message 90 of 150 (890809)
01-10-2022 5:54 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by PaulK
01-10-2022 5:06 PM


Re: Jesus was never anointed to Christ
Yup, folk are free to be as willfully stupid as they wish.

My Website: My Website

This message is a reply to:
 Message 87 by PaulK, posted 01-10-2022 5:06 PM PaulK has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 91 by PaulK, posted 01-11-2022 12:08 AM jar has replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2018 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.1
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2022