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Message 211 of 515 (890719)
01-10-2022 11:09 AM
Reply to: Message 210 by Porkncheese
01-10-2022 11:04 AM


Re: Hypochondria
I am vaccinated because I am not willfully stupid.

My Website: My Website

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Message 212 of 515 (890723)
01-10-2022 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 200 by Porkncheese
01-10-2022 9:37 AM


Porkncheese writes:

Your health is your responsibility, not mine


Herd health is everybody's responsibility. You are your brother's keeper.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Message 213 of 515 (890724)
01-10-2022 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 203 by Porkncheese
01-10-2022 9:52 AM


Porkncheese writes:

I am by not taking a dangerous experimental injection that has killed and disabled so many people.


It's an experiment with a pretty big sample size. And it was probably less dangerous for me than walking to the library today.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Message 214 of 515 (890725)
01-10-2022 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 213 by ringo
01-10-2022 11:21 AM


And it was probably less dangerous for me than walking to the library today.

Slippery out there?


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 215 of 515 (890727)
01-10-2022 11:32 AM
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01-10-2022 11:24 AM


Tanypteryx writes:

Slippery out there?


It only takes one slippery spot for us old timers.

(And if I was paranoid, I might think the cars were all trying to kill me too.)

Edited by ringo, : Fixed quote.


"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Message 216 of 515 (890728)
01-10-2022 11:40 AM
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01-10-2022 11:32 AM


It only takes one slippery spot for us old timers.

(And if I was paranoid, I might think the cars were all trying to kill me too.)

Yep, I fractured an elbow a few years ago slipping on the ice getting into my car


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tangle
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Message 217 of 515 (890730)
01-10-2022 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 205 by Porkncheese
01-10-2022 10:01 AM


Pork writes:

Ive already had covid and was fine... Now i have natural immunity...

You probably still have some immunity yes. However you can be re-infected.

I actually know one of your thinkalikes, an antivaxer who caught it a year ago and had mild flu symptoms. She caught it again last week, Delta. This time she's quite ill, but not hospitalised. Yet.

Of course no one cares about long COVID but it can be very unpleasant. My daughter lost her sense of smell by catching it way back pre-vaccines. 20 months later she's still got no sense of smell and taste. She's also got what in now described as COVID finger.

Good luck, I'm sure you'll be fine.

Experimental injection not required

Thank you for participating as the control sample.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 218 of 515 (890735)
01-10-2022 12:59 PM
Reply to: Message 203 by Porkncheese
01-10-2022 9:52 AM


Porkie writes:

I am by not taking a dangerous experimental injection that has killed and disabled so many people

It's surprising how many of you anti-vaxers suddenly lose their fear of taking 'experimental' injections once they turn up in ICU. They tend to be very happy to fill their bodies with everything and anything if it helps them breathe again.

Does your rejection of COVID vaccinations also include rejection of COVID treatments?

There was a nurse on the radio the other day explaining how angry-making it was to be asked by a patient very ill with COVID "I'll have the vaccination now". A regular occurrence apparently.
Too late I'm afraid.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 219 of 515 (890736)
01-10-2022 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by Tangle
01-10-2022 11:46 AM


Doing fine... No it's not fine at all... Melbourne is the most locked down city in the world, ok. Jobs lost, livelihoods lost, massive debt, sanity lost, homes lost, lives lost. It makes me cry thinking about the main so many of my friends are going through. Anecdotally I know no one who has been harmed by covid yet everyone I know has been harmed by the government response. Everyone Is so focused on covid that there ignoring everything else

My doc said as long as I have natural antibodies I'm protected. It's past 6 months, well see in another 6 or 12 months.
The jab does give you antibodies according to studies but their gone in 12 weeks so u need boosters. And you can still catch and spread it. Natural immunity is better

Anyway, for many us we don't care about covid, I dont, I over it all over the media every single day... It's become a moral issue because we are being punished for nothing. In Vic we can't work or go almost anywhere. Why not? How are we going to survive?

Do you think it's right that people are being forced to take the needle and being discriminated against?
And this desperate push to vax everyone. Shouldn't there be a control group? Shouldn't there be informed consent?

Most people are against this but some people want it. I ask them why and they have no explanation, only hate for us. We've done nothing wrong


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Message 220 of 515 (890737)
01-10-2022 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by ringo
01-10-2022 11:19 AM


Fair enough. We ought to love one another.
But what's a needle got to do with that? Nothing
And where is the love for the pro choice... No where..
Only vilification and discrimination... Why. We've done nothing wrong

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Porkncheese
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Message 221 of 515 (890738)
01-10-2022 1:42 PM


Totalitarianism is more dangerous than covid
Totalitarianism is more dangerous than covid
Will they ever relinquish the powers they have stolen in the last 2 years... I doubt it
Germany became a totalitarian state under a state of emergency. So did Rome. This is the fall of western democracy...
It was never about covid

  
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Message 222 of 515 (890740)
01-10-2022 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by Tangle
01-10-2022 11:46 AM


She's also got what in now described as COVID finger.

Could you please describe the symptoms of that?

We move our fingers with tendons that connect them to muscles in the forearm. Those tendons route through ligament tunnels (consult your Gray's Anatomy for more details). Any obstruction in those tunnels can cause problems.

After my 9-day bout with COVID exactly one year ago (pre-vaccine for me), I developed a "trick thumb" in my left hand. It could remain extended just fine (and I used that as the resting position at night), but if I tried to bend it then it would resist my movement and then suddenly snap to a curled position accompanied with pain. Similarly, extending it again would be just the same, also accompanied with pain, so once I got it extended I tried to keep it there. I could not curl and extend it smoothly as we normally can do with all our digits, but rather it had basically just two positions that it would snap between painfully. And on the inside of my left hand (palmar side) toward the top of the metacarpal bone (distal end), just below (proximal to) the first phalanx of the thumb, there was a painful knot, the apparent location of the inflammation.

That was in my left hand and it took weeks for it to go away, but then the same thing showed up with my right thumb and ring finger. The ring finger lingered longer than the thumb, but it wasn't as bad as with my left thumb.

Is that what "COVID finger" is? BTW, I kept my senses of smell and taste, but still have a lingering cough.

And of course I've been fully vaccinated since then. I'm no idiot!

Edited by dwise1, : slight improvements in the description of symptoms


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jar
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Message 223 of 515 (890748)
01-10-2022 2:40 PM
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01-10-2022 2:03 PM



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Message 224 of 515 (890766)
01-10-2022 3:19 PM
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01-10-2022 2:03 PM


It's chilblains - fingers and toes.

Study reveals why some people get Covid toe condition


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 225 of 515 (890780)
01-10-2022 3:42 PM


Me COVID and Vax
I am vaxed and boosted and getting out of COVID isolation tomorrow. My test came back last week positive. My symptoms were like a medium cold.
When the new booster comes out I will be in line for it. The reason my symptoms were mild is because I am vaxed.

Why am I vaccinated?
Why am I wearing a mask?
So when you or someone you love has a heart attack or a stroke or a car accident, or when your kid gets pneumonia, there will be a hospital bed for them because I won’t be in it.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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