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Porkncheese Member Posts: 174 From: Australia Joined: |
Well its your choice and everyone should have that choice but did the vax work as they said it would... The article in the OP says it was 90% at preventing infection... Yet you got infected even after 3 doses...
Im hearing this kind of argument a lot but it is a fallacy because you cannot prove such. We don't know if your symptoms would of been better or worse without the jab. Its like me saying, im unvaxed and had covid. It was like a mild cold that would of been worse if i had the jab. Its a shift of the goal posts. Their original claim was that these injections would provide herd immunity, end the pandemic and bring life back to normal... That didn't happen so they fell back and said it lowers symptoms Either way i wish the government would just leave us alone. Stop forcing by using coercion, blackmail, threats, bribery, ransom and such, these are all criminal offences. And stop discriminating against us. Leave us in peace cos we've done nothing wrong In the beginning God made the heavens and the earth "No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude" "Its easier to fool, a man than to convince him he is being fooled"
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Theodoric Member Posts: 7316 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.0
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No it is a public health issue. Personal choices can and should be able to override personal choices. Can you let your sewage just run onto the ground or into waterways? No. Were vaccines mandated for a myriad of other diseases Yes. Is this the most tested vaccine of all time? Yes.
Yup. Sure did.
Omicron changes that figure a little, but it is still high
I see math and statistics are not your strong suit. Are you one of those that thought the 1/4 pounder at McDonalds was bigger than the 1/3 lb Whopper.
The overwhelming scientific evidence supports this conclusion. Science is not about proving, it is about showing what the evidence shows. 100's of millions of cases have shown that vaccinated people that get COVID have lessened symptoms and much better outcomes than unvaxed.
No it isn't.
This was dependent on 80+% getting the vaccine. People who care about themselves more than society as a whole. like you, prevented that from happening.
More lies. The scientific studies to authorize the vaccines themselves clearly talk about this. Just because you are too ignorant to understand science or read the original studies does not mean you were lied to. It just means you are ignorant.
There are rules to participate in society. If you don't follow them, you pay the consequence. Nothing the government has done is criminal and has been done in the past and the courts have agreed. Exercising your rights does not mean you are free from consequence. Edited by Theodoric, : spelling What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Porkncheese Member Posts: 174 From: Australia Joined: |
So why should we be discriminated against? We have done nothing wrong.
Especially seeing that i have natural immunity from covid In the beginning God made the heavens and the earth
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Theodoric Member Posts: 7316 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.0
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You are not being discriminated against.
Discrimination is the unjust or prejudicial treatment of people because of their inherent differences. Not getting a vaccine is a personal choice. Things like ethnicity, age, sex, or disability are not.
The science(I know you hate scientific evidence) shows that your immunity is much less than the immunity imparted by the vaccine. I on the other hand will have super immunity for a while. Vaccined, boosted, and recovered from COVID is the gold seal of immunity. For a while. She blinded me. With Science. quote: https://directorsblog.nih.gov/...s-differs-from-an-infection But NIH lies right. Because, because, well just because. quote: Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19... If you are more likely to get the disease you are more likely to infect someone else. Not getting the vaccine is sociopathic and inherently deadly for people that interact with you. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Tangle Member Posts: 8498 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
You have opted out of society so what do you expect? You're not being forced to be vaccinated, but not being has consequences which you have chosen. Have you also opted out of COVID treatment if you need it?
You do not have immunity from COVID you have a declining immunity from serious COVID harm or death. You can and probably will catch it again and you may get seriously ill. Will you accept treatment? Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Porkncheese Member Posts: 174 From: Australia Joined: |
Oxford definition of Discrimination - the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people
It does not have to be inherent. Discrimination can be against people who choose things like religion, sexual orientation and gender. Why should our fundamental rights be attacked by not being able to work or go places? Why should we be punished when we've done nothing wrong? In the beginning God made the heavens and the earth
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Porkncheese Member Posts: 174 From: Australia Joined: |
I haven't opted out of anything. They have taken us out of society for no reason but to force their needles.
So i ask again... Why should we be treated this way? We've done nothing wrong In the beginning God made the heavens and the earth
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jar Member Posts: 33908 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 2.7
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Because your behavior is anti-social and detrimental to the general public.
You are quite simply a parasitic virus factory. My Website: My Website
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Porkncheese Member Posts: 174 From: Australia Joined: |
"We took the risk now everyone else has to"
Seems like the only reason why they want us to get jabbed. Im still to hear a logical argument. Go vax yourselves and leave us alone cos we aren't harming anyone. The degradation of basic morals is astounding. If the Chinese or Russians did this 3 yeras ago there would be international condemnation. Now, after much cognitive dissonance, such atrocities are accepted in the name of covid which is nothing more than a mild flu like virus In the beginning God made the heavens and the earth
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Porkncheese Member Posts: 174 From: Australia Joined: |
That is the lamest reason i ever heard... That is no reason to persecute people. This has nothing to do with anti-social and even if it was thats not a crime
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Theodoric Member Posts: 7316 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.0
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So now you want to use the fallacy of equivocation. By claiming discrimination you are discussing the legal aspect of the word. The legal aspect means prejudicial treatment as I explained. Discrimination, as you want to use it, is not illegal. Happens every day.
See you want to use the legal definition. You are not being discriminated against. You are suffering legal consequences of your actions or inactions. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 7316 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.0 |
Where did you get this supposed quote from?
Who said it? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Tangle Member Posts: 8498 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
You have opted out of the mass vaccination scheme which is there to protect society as a whole. Your choice. Your consequences. I'll ask you again - third time - do you also elect to opt out of treatment should you get ill with COVID? Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 7316 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.0 |
You are not being persecuted.
definition subject (someone) to hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of their ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation or their political beliefs. You freely chose to not get vaccinated and put people around you hat heightened risk. Too bad. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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nwr Member Posts: 5974 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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Your fundamental rights are not being attacked.
You are not being punished. You have made choices, and those choices have consequences. Choices always have consequences. If you don't like the consequences, then make different choices. Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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