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Message 376 of 589 (889980)
12-19-2021 10:15 AM
Reply to: Message 374 by Michael MD
12-19-2021 7:51 AM


Traditional procedures used in quantum physics in settings like a laboratory wouldn't work. You'd have to set up a field test using naturally-occurring materials, in a different kind of setting.
OK, so Professor Plum in the backyard with a pine 2 by 4.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 379 of 589 (890034)
12-22-2021 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 378 by Michael MD
12-22-2021 9:31 AM


The price of 2x4s has gone up during the pandemic.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 383 of 589 (890097)
12-24-2021 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 378 by Michael MD
12-22-2021 9:31 AM


In the newest issue (January2022) of Scientific American there is an interesting article, Can We Gauge Quantum Time of Flight? by Anil Ananthaswamy.
You might benefit from reading it and then reading it again. Note how hypotheses are proposed and what different results of experiments might support or reject different predictions. Then compare that to everything you have written here. Do you see the difference?
We already know a whole shitload of things about the Universe, and a part of that knowledge is; we know a lot about the gaps in our knowledge.
Physicists look at what we know with finer and finer resolution and propose solutions and predict what we should see if they are correct, but also what it means if they are incorrect.
They have to have to have a signal or observation or the unexplained absence of an expected signal or observation to investigate.
You have not shown us a single observation, or lack of one, that would convince a physicist to search for your undetected ether or to propose it as the solution to any observed gaps in our knowledge, yet you speak so authoritatively about it as if you have already detected it, or calculated its properties.
You have not been successful at bullshitting any of us, but it looks to us like you have been very successful at bullshitting yourself.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 391 of 589 (890293)
12-31-2021 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 390 by Percy
12-31-2021 9:46 AM


Your original uncyclical attempts researching etheric classical luminosity undermine elucidations liquidating ephemeral standard systematics.
Or, his molecubes are out of alignment, tactimatically speaking.
ABE: I have a feeling I have said this before!
Edited by Tanypteryx, : I realized that I said this before

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 398 of 589 (890366)
01-03-2022 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 397 by Michael MD
01-03-2022 7:47 AM


Bump for Michael MD
Message 383

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 405 of 589 (890703)
01-10-2022 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 404 by Michael MD
01-10-2022 9:07 AM


Bump for Michael MD
Message 383
Tanypteryx writes:
In the newest issue (January2022) of Scientific American there is an interesting article, Can We Gauge Quantum Time of Flight? by Anil Ananthaswamy.
You might benefit from reading it and then reading it again. Note how hypotheses are proposed and what different results of experiments might support or reject different predictions. Then compare that to everything you have written here. Do you see the difference?
We already know a whole shitload of things about the Universe, and a part of that knowledge is; we know a lot about the gaps in our knowledge.
Physicists look at what we know with finer and finer resolution and propose solutions and predict what we should see if they are correct, but also what it means if they are incorrect.
They have to have to have a signal or observation or the unexplained absence of an expected signal or observation to investigate.
You have not shown us a single observation, or lack of one, that would convince a physicist to search for your undetected ether or to propose it as the solution to any observed gaps in our knowledge, yet you speak so authoritatively about it as if you have already detected it, or calculated its properties.
You have not been successful at bullshitting any of us, but it looks to us like you have been very successful at bullshitting yourself.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 407 of 589 (890829)
01-10-2022 7:23 PM
Reply to: Message 406 by Michael MD
01-10-2022 6:51 PM


Re: Bump for Michael MD
One cannot detect the ether of my Ether Model, because its first-causal ether units are too super-rarified, compared to our world's (created subsequent to the ether's appearance) ability to detect it by observation, or by using conventional technologies.
And yet you speak so authoritatively, about something that has never been detected. How is it that you can describe something that cannot and has not ever been detected?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 410 of 589 (890838)
01-10-2022 9:30 PM
Reply to: Message 408 by dwise1
01-10-2022 7:26 PM


Re: Bump for Michael MD
Theologists and fundies and purveyors of woo do it all the time.
OK, I see what you're saying here, he should hit up a fundie bible humper for the funding.
ABE: They have more money than God.
Edited by Tanypteryx, : No reason given.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 411 of 589 (890839)
01-10-2022 9:44 PM
Reply to: Message 404 by Michael MD
01-10-2022 9:07 AM


which itself is based on rejection of the existence of any ether whatsoever.
This is a total fabrication on your part!
Quantum mechanics is NOT based on anything related to ether or whether it exists or not. That would be exactly equivalent to saying that quantum theory is based on the rejection of Rudolph's red nose.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 438 of 589 (891179)
01-20-2022 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 428 by dwise1
01-16-2022 1:15 PM


Re: You seem to be more confused than I thought.
dwise1 writes:
The basic ideas for the Model were obtained through codebreaking, of sets of codes, putatively enciphered by otherworldly sources.
[DWise1: my emphasis added]
OK, so ancient alien astronauts. Say no more, say no more (nudge, nudge, wink, wink).
I think he means angels, but what I want to know, do angels have hands at the ends of their wings or are they vertebrates with 6 appendages? And why do the alien astronauts have to be ancient?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 450 of 589 (891577)
02-03-2022 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 449 by AZPaul3
02-03-2022 1:29 PM


Re: Actual origin of QM
Oh, Son Goku, I don't think he's referring to anything in this universe. He apparently comes from a different reality.
Well, don't forget we're talking about a guy who thinks aliens gave him to a key to a code somewhere and that inspired his ether fantasy. I have to wonder why the aliens want HIM to know about the code and ether? What's in it for them? Why didn't they give the code to Stephen Hawking or someone who could actually understand it?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 453 of 589 (891592)
02-04-2022 1:01 PM
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02-04-2022 10:11 AM


Re: To summarize the most basic partsRe: Actual origin of QM
My Model proposes that any such "first causal" random process preceded the world we are in now -i.e., a first-causal process that led to a universal ether, and which was later followed by a designed creational process that produced the quantum-atomic world we are in now.
This seems like a really detailed description of something that has never been detected.
And "a designed creational process that produced the quantum-atomic world we are in now" sure sounds like something you just made up.
As a pair of first-causal elemental units underwent oscillatory fatigue, their shape (which had probably been spherical) changed, as they moved directionally for the first time. Besides the change in shape, they would also have undergone a change in their type of orientation with other elemental points, as reciprocal oscillations changed to independent vibrations. These ether-like "points" now could interact with each other, as their outward vibrations came into contact.
And again, highly detailed descriptions of something that has never been even hinted at by any research.
Wherever two Yin-Yang couplet units contacted each other, their matching pairs of vibrations could lock and link up the two couplets into a tetrad unit. This would represent a template for how larger and larger units could be formed in the ether matrix, up to the size scale of protons and atoms.
More details without any supporting observations. So far, you have not given us a single observation in physics that would support the existence of your ether, not even a hint.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 457 of 589 (891607)
02-05-2022 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 454 by Michael MD
02-05-2022 9:06 AM


Re: To summarize the most basic partsRe: Actual origin of QM
Parenthetically, this is a message line I claim to have decoded, (verbatim, and cleanly) from the coded source I recently talked about.
Compare the straightforwardness of this kind of explanation with the numerous and convoluted explanations of quantum entanglement that are given using standard physics.
And this is what I decoded from your coded message, "STUFF HAPPENS".

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 458 of 589 (891608)
02-05-2022 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 456 by Theodoric
02-05-2022 10:00 AM


Re: To summarize the most basic partsRe: Actual origin of QM
I'll bite. What is this "source"? How did you acquire it?
And what did it say before it was decoded? How do we know it was decoded accurately?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 461 of 589 (891627)
02-05-2022 9:53 PM
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02-05-2022 11:16 AM


Re: To summarize the most basic partsRe: Actual origin of QM
It seems some sort of aliens are involved. Not sure if he means extraterrestrials, leprechauns or Guatamalans.
Well, aliens with an Enigma Machine.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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