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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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I am vaxed and boosted and getting out of COVID isolation tomorrow. My test came back last week positive. My symptoms were like a medium cold.
When the new booster comes out I will be in line for it. The reason my symptoms were mild is because I am vaxed. Why am I vaccinated?Why am I wearing a mask? So when you or someone you love has a heart attack or a stroke or a car accident, or when your kid gets pneumonia, there will be a hospital bed for them because I won’t be in it. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Well its your choice and everyone should have that choice
No it is a public health issue. Personal choices can and should be able to override personal choices. Can you let your sewage just run onto the ground or into waterways? No. Were vaccines mandated for a myriad of other diseases Yes. Is this the most tested vaccine of all time? Yes.
but did the vax work as they said it would
Yup. Sure did.
The article in the OP says it was 90% at preventing infection
Omicron changes that figure a little, but it is still high
yet you got infected even after 3 doses...
I see math and statistics are not your strong suit. Are you one of those that thought the 1/4 pounder at McDonalds was bigger than the 1/3 lb Whopper.
Im hearing this kind of argument a lot but it is a fallacy because you cannot prove such. We don't know if your symptoms would of (the word you want here is have)
you been better or worse without the jab.
The overwhelming scientific evidence supports this conclusion. Science is not about proving, it is about showing what the evidence shows. 100's of millions of cases have shown that vaccinated people that get COVID have lessened symptoms and much better outcomes than unvaxed.
Its like me saying, im unvaxed and had covid. It was like a mild cold that would of been worse if i had the jab. It cannot be proven Its a shift of the goal posts.
No it isn't.
Their original claim was that these injections would provide herd immunity, end the pandemic and bring life back to normal...
This was dependent on 80+% getting the vaccine. People who care about themselves more than society as a whole. like you, prevented that from happening.
That didn't happen so they fell back and said it lowers symptoms
More lies. The scientific studies to authorize the vaccines themselves clearly talk about this. Just because you are too ignorant to understand science or read the original studies does not mean you were lied to. It just means you are ignorant.
Either way i wish the government would just leave us alone. Stop forcing by using coercion, blackmail, threats, bribery, ransom and such, these are all criminal offences. And stop discriminating against us. Leave us in peace cos we've done nothing wrong
There are rules to participate in society. If you don't follow them, you pay the consequence. Nothing the government has done is criminal and has been done in the past and the courts have agreed. Exercising your rights does not mean you are free from consequence. Edited by Theodoric, : spellingWhat can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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You are not being discriminated against.
Discrimination is the unjust or prejudicial treatment of people because of their inherent differences. Not getting a vaccine is a personal choice. Things like ethnicity, age, sex, or disability are not. Especially seeing that I have natural immunity from covid
The science(I know you hate scientific evidence) shows that your immunity is much less than the immunity imparted by the vaccine. I on the other hand will have super immunity for a while. Vaccined, boosted, and recovered from COVID is the gold seal of immunity. For a while. She blinded me. With Science.
quote:How Immunity Generated from COVID-19 Vaccines Differs from an Infection – NIH Director's Blog But NIH lies right. Because, because, well just because. quote:Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19 Vaccination — Kentucky, May–June 2021 | MMWR If you are more likely to get the disease you are more likely to infect someone else. Not getting the vaccine is sociopathic and inherently deadly for people that interact with you.You anti-vaxers are also more likely to not get tested when sick, so you don't know you have it until you have passed it on to many people. If you catch it and kill someone may you rot in whatever hell you believe in. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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So now you want to use the fallacy of equivocation. By claiming discrimination you are discussing the legal aspect of the word. The legal aspect means prejudicial treatment as I explained. Discrimination, as you want to use it, is not illegal. Happens every day.
Why should our fundamental rights be attacked by not being able to work or go places?
See you want to use the legal definition. You are not being discriminated against. You are suffering legal consequences of your actions or inactions.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Where did you get this supposed quote from?
Who said it? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
You are not being persecuted.
definition subject (someone) to hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of their ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation or their political beliefs. You freely chose to not get vaccinated and put people around you hat heightened risk. Too bad.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Plato said that democracy will always be taken by totalitarianism.
Source?When Plato talked about democracy he was not talking about the type of democracy we have. That is the only thing in oiur rant worth addressing. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Do you even know what communists are?
That you attack people that way just shows you are not a serious debater. It exposes you as the troll you are. Those points have been shown to be dishonest and inaccurate already. No point in pointing it out again. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Any idea what comorbidity means? Any?
Hint it doesn't have anything to do with dying. Will you answer? If you do it will be more lies and out of context crap. This is a prime example of idiots spreading lies because they have no idea what words mean.The whole comorbidity argument does not support the anti-vax argument at all. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Immunity is a primary word they don't seem to understand.
I know words are hard. Covidiots and MAGAT's have trouble with the concept that one word may have multiple meanings. This ignorance has gotten many killed. I always thought there should be a primer page here at EVC that links to or discusses logical fallacies.Equivocation is this logical fallacy. quote:Equivocation Here is what they think immunity meanslack of susceptibility, especially to something unwelcome or harmful. Here is what it means in the context of disease and medicine.the ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin by the action of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Here is a link to a post I made long ago about logical fallacies. I suggest you print this poster and look at it before you post. There is also a good description of what is a scientific theory. am sure you need to learn about that too.
If you have any desire to be taken seriously(which I doubt you do) then you should consider eliminating fallacies and gaining a basic understanding of science and the scientific method. The site now also has a cognitive bias poster. You need that too. Message 1Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie? |
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Here is my first post.
Message 227 Where is the ad hominem? Things based on fact or based upon you arguments are not ad hominems. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie? |
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
If it was true you would provide a source.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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